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Re: Can Somebody Please Answer Some More Questions?
« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2006, 03:15:12 pm »
I don't mind people who stay true to there religion

You have to be careful with that phrasing.  Some fundementalists stay true to their religion by stoning people to death.

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« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2006, 03:26:08 pm »
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Re: Can Somebody Please Answer Some More Questions?
« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2006, 03:27:44 pm »
I don't mind people who stay true to there religion

You have to be careful with that phrasing. Some fundementalists stay true to their religion by stoning people to death.

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Re: Can Somebody Please Answer Some More Questions?
« Reply #43 on: August 28, 2006, 08:59:42 am »
I don't mind people who stay true to there religion
You have to be careful with that phrasing. Some fundementalists stay true to their religion by stoning people to death.
Yes, and some uphold their religion be blowing themselves up and killing innocent people.

I think I know enough about christianity to know that it's stupid, but still, it teaches you to be kind to other people.

Am I a Christian? Yes.  Does Christianity help society? Yes.  Is it the one true religion?  Hard to say.  Is there a Heaven and a Hell?  Hard to say.

I am a Christian, and I try to follow the Bible, since it explains how to get into Heaven.  On the other hand, everyone else is following their own religions in the belief that they will go to heaven too.  Also, it doesn't seem fair that people who never learn about Heaven or Hell are condemned to the latter.  I choose to stick to the Bible, because it has a good deal of fulfilled prophecy that's more than just guesses, and much of the information in it can be scientifically proven, or at least there's evidence for it.

http://www.bibleprobe.com/exodus.htm
http://www.bibleprobe.com/noah.htm

If you're curious about more, I can definitely find other information.
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Re: Can Somebody Please Answer Some More Questions?
« Reply #44 on: August 28, 2006, 09:15:13 am »
1st. In my Oppinion there is neither a thing called God or free will, what we call free will is a very complicated network of nerves which create this imaginary thing we call soul but which does actually not exist. you can compare the soul to an OS on a computer while our brain is the computer. you can create a computer where you might think that thing thinks, but no it doesnt and so it is with humans. the only of those esoteric things that exists is destiny

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Re: Can Somebody Please Answer Some More Questions?
« Reply #45 on: August 28, 2006, 12:44:05 pm »
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Also, it doesn't seem fair that people who never learn about Heaven or Hell are condemned to the latter.
Everyone has a questioning inside them, the feeling we are not alone, the feeling there is something bigger then you watching over you, or just the feeling of emptyness inside you. It drives someone to ask questions, some people, like alot of the people in these forums go after science to asnwer their questions.  Others will go to religion, and also some jsut do nothing about it at all.  Why do you think there are so many theories to how life started or why there are so many theories about how the earth was made, also the number of religions around the world.  People just want answers really.  Also if you do read the Bible then you know God never wanted us to leave the garden, where he walked with Adam.  Adam and Eve did it, used that little thing called free will God gave us.
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Re: Can Somebody Please Answer Some More Questions?
« Reply #46 on: August 28, 2006, 01:54:48 pm »
Look guys, it's gonna be pretty hard to make you guys understand that you are on top. Not god, but you. It's gonna be hard because it's imprinted in your brain. You've been taught all your life that there is a god, and it's gonna be hard to comprehend how life would be like without a god.

1st. In my Oppinion there is neither a thing called God or free will, what we call free will is a very complicated network of nerves which create this imaginary thing we call soul but which does actually not exist. you can compare the soul to an OS on a computer while our brain is the computer. you can create a computer where you might think that thing thinks, but no it doesnt and so it is with humans. the only of those esoteric things that exists is destiny


I agree. We're computers.

Since we are all giving links to sites, I want you to read this site......Go ahead do it, don't ignore it.

http://www.creationtheory.org/

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Re: Can Somebody Please Answer Some More Questions?
« Reply #47 on: August 28, 2006, 02:24:17 pm »
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Look guys, it's gonna be pretty hard to make you guys understand that you are on top. Not god, but you. It's gonna be hard because it's imprinted in your brain. You've been taught all your life that there is a god, and it's gonna be hard to comprehend how life would be like without a god.
Or we just choose to believe that way... don't be so pissy.  Learn to accept people beleive differently then you.
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Re: Can Somebody Please Answer Some More Questions?
« Reply #48 on: August 28, 2006, 02:33:59 pm »
Accept that I'm pissy.

It really bother me if someone I don't really know that much believes in it, but if it's a good friend, I'll try my hardest to get him to open his eyes. Most of the time, they are just christian because there family is. I've got 3 friends to actually think for a second, THINK! Most of the time, they just think that there family will abandon them.

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Re: Can Somebody Please Answer Some More Questions?
« Reply #49 on: August 28, 2006, 02:43:06 pm »
Dascoo you are one of the most ignorant people here.  Anyway so what your friends are christians, if it makes them happy let them do it, I have had a friend take about how im dumb for beleiving in God and it gets old, cause most of the time its one or two reasons stated over and over... Besides the fact you don't need to be a dick to anyone you beleives different then you... well you need to let people find stuff out for themselves cause they will never really believe in things until they choose to. Also people just want to be happy, if being a christian makes them happy let them stay that way  if you think beleiving whatever you do makes you happy then do it. If you try to make people think differently when they are happy then I really hope you burn in hell.
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Re: Can Somebody Please Answer Some More Questions?
« Reply #50 on: August 28, 2006, 03:25:48 pm »
i accept christians :)
and i understand why they live with god, i accept mostly any religion.
also dascoo, i dont agree with the oppinion that we're on top because basicly nothing is on top. actually the whole galaxy is a chunk of quants. nothing else.
otherwise it is quite dumb to insist on such a theory because you only live once. live your life, it's fun :D
with or without god, i dont care, as long as you don't go nuts for him.


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i'd appreciate if anyone read this stuff here that i wrote and gave some comments on it (scroll down)
http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=4283.60
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Re: Can Somebody Please Answer Some More Questions?
« Reply #51 on: August 28, 2006, 05:34:48 pm »
Dascoo you are one of the most ignorant people here. Anyway so what your friends are christians, if it makes them happy let them do it, I have had a friend take about how im dumb for beleiving in God and it gets old, cause most of the time its one or two reasons stated over and over... Besides the fact you don't need to be a **** to anyone you beleives different then you... well you need to let people find stuff out for themselves cause they will never really believe in things until they choose to. Also people just want to be happy, if being a christian makes them happy let them stay that way if you think beleiving whatever you do makes you happy then do it. If you try to make people think differently when they are happy then I really hope you burn in hell.

Aaaaaw I thought I was just going to decompose in the ground :'(

So what? Now your pissed that I changed people's minds? I made them see a point, and they think it's more logical. I didn't force them, I told them to really think.

EDIT: Why are we talking about the galaxy now? We have basically no idea what's out there. I'm talking about earth. We can destroy every single living thing on this planet if we wanted too, except in turn we'll all die out, so it's balanced, but we have the decision. Sure an asteroid can do that too, but does it have a decision? No, it doesn't even think to my knowledge.

Date Posted: August 28, 2006, 04:34:50 PM
I also have to add this. Why are people always asking "HOW DOES YOU NO HE DOESN'T EXIST".

Because there is no proof. Maybe I should ask how do you know that purple bunnies who can turn invisble if you look at them don't exist?

Stop being stupid guys.

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Re: Can Somebody Please Answer Some More Questions?
« Reply #52 on: August 28, 2006, 11:30:30 pm »
Dascoo you are one of the most ignorant people here. Anyway so what your friends are christians, if it makes them happy let them do it, I have had a friend take about how im dumb for beleiving in God and it gets old, cause most of the time its one or two reasons stated over and over... Besides the fact you don't need to be a **** to anyone you beleives different then you... well you need to let people find stuff out for themselves cause they will never really believe in things until they choose to. Also people just want to be happy, if being a christian makes them happy let them stay that way if you think beleiving whatever you do makes you happy then do it. If you try to make people think differently when they are happy then I really hope you burn in hell.

Aaaaaw I thought I was just going to decompose in the ground :'(

So what? Now your pissed that I changed people's minds? I made them see a point, and they think it's more logical. I didn't force them, I told them to really think.

EDIT: Why are we talking about the galaxy now? We have basically no idea what's out there. I'm talking about earth. We can destroy every single living thing on this planet if we wanted too, except in turn we'll all die out, so it's balanced, but we have the decision. Sure an asteroid can do that too, but does it have a decision? No, it doesn't even think to my knowledge.

Date Posted: August 28, 2006, 04:34:50 PM
I also have to add this. Why are people always asking "HOW DOES YOU NO HE DOESN'T EXIST".

Because there is no proof. Maybe I should ask how do you know that purple bunnies who can turn invisble if you look at them don't exist?

Stop being stupid guys.
Its annoying to me a person like you would try to made his friends think differently, I have friends that aren't christians but I don't make them think anything. I state my beleifs for what they are, my beliefs. If tehy have questions they can come to me. Just cause YOU think something is right doesn't mean it is right.
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Re: Can Somebody Please Answer Some More Questions?
« Reply #53 on: August 29, 2006, 07:44:51 am »
BUT THEN THEY AGREED WITH ME! Geez.

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Re: Can Somebody Please Answer Some More Questions?
« Reply #54 on: August 29, 2006, 08:11:38 am »
Does Christianity help society? Yes.
That's arguable. In the USA they try to force their beliefs on other people (for example, in Texas, nobody is allowed to run for public office unless they believe in the "existence of a superior being"; and numerous school boards trying to teach "Intelligent Design" as an acceptable scientific theory). The Crusades were mostly supported by the Catholic church. The KKK was made up primarily of Protestants.

Christians themselves may help society, but surely this is because of the people they are, not because of their religious denomination.

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Re: Can Somebody Please Answer Some More Questions?
« Reply #55 on: August 29, 2006, 09:18:09 am »
but if it's a good friend, I'll try my hardest to get him to open his eyes. Most of the time, they are just christian because there family is. I've got 3 friends to actually think for a second, THINK!

I have to agree with you here Dascoo.  If someone thinks they're a Christian because of their family, that does them no good.  They need to consider what they believe, instead of just assuming that they're a Christian.  And if they turn Evolutionist, well, I suppose that's no worse (eternally) than believing incorrectly that they are a Christian.

and numerous school boards trying to teach "Intelligent Design" as an acceptable scientific theory).

Numerous school boards are also trying to teach Evolution as an acceptable scientific theory.  The problem is, there are two sides to everything.  You could say there was nothing, then a Big Bang created everything.  You could also say there was nothing, then God created everything.  Both of those are a matter of faith.  You could say the Grand Canyon was carved over millions of years by a river.  You could say it was carved in about 30 seconds by the Genesis flood.  You could say adaptation is proof of evolution.  You could also say that it was proof of intelligent design.  Lucy could be an ancient human.  Lucy could also just be a monkey (there were no hand or foot bones, and the skull was crushed beyond recognition).  However, I don't believe there is sufficient accurate evidence or scientific backing to support evolution in its entirety.  Obviously there's not enough support to completely support creation either.  But we are constantly finding more evidence for creation, and finding more mistakes about evolution.

Christians themselves may help society, but surely this is because of the people they are, not because of their religious denomination.

Well sure.  It's religion in general that helps society.  Christianity was just my example.

Since we are all giving links to sites, I want you to read this site......Go ahead do it, don't ignore it.

http://www.creationtheory.org/

I did read the information on the site for about 30 minutes.  Unfortunately, many of the author's statements are simply wrong.  He doesn't know enough about creationist beliefs to make definitive statements about them.  If you want to know what I'm referring to, ask and I'll put them in a future post.

If you have a fast connection, download these videos:
http://drdino.com/downloads.php

At least watch them for the first 15 minutes.  If they aren't sufficiently interesting, feel free to disregard them.  But please, don't let your pre-existing thoughts close your mind to this information.  I understand most people are firmly set in their beliefs (I am), but I still think it's good to explore other options.
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Re: Can Somebody Please Answer Some More Questions?
« Reply #56 on: August 29, 2006, 09:41:36 am »
All these topics just end up in a big fight about beliefs. We got to watch it, we don't want anyone to start flaming other religions.

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« Reply #57 on: August 29, 2006, 10:40:49 am »
All these topics just end up in a big fight about beliefs. We got to watch it, we don't want anyone to start flaming other religions.

I think we're approaching this in a fairly civilized and respectable manner.  Good point though.
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Re: Can Somebody Please Answer Some More Questions?
« Reply #58 on: August 29, 2006, 11:53:08 am »
Please LAW, put them down.

Date Posted: August 29, 2006, 12:52:18 PM
All these topics just end up in a big fight about beliefs. We got to watch it, we don't want anyone to start flaming other religions.

I don't have one.

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Re: Can Somebody Please Answer Some More Questions?
« Reply #59 on: August 30, 2006, 09:40:59 am »
All these topics just end up in a big fight about beliefs. We got to watch it, we don't want anyone to start flaming other religions.
I don't have one.

Religion doesn't mean you believe in God.  A religion is simply the beliefs that govern your lifestyle.
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