ctf_rugged

[Viral]

I present you my map. Focused mostly on fastepaced gameplay and close combat encounters. There is a bunch of places where you can use m79/nade boosting along with flag throwing so there is a bit of room for some teamplaying aswell xB. Anyway, here it is:

[Objects' placement](http://i.imgur.com/nEFW5pQ)

If you find anything you think should be tweaked, feel free to post - I'll look into it <3 Have fun.

Edit@16.04.2014
New version thx to darDar and ZdzichU

[darDar]

Make it ctf_Rugged 
Maps should always begin with capital letters in my opinion.
From what I've seen from you last thread, this map seems really good. I also like the look of it & the fact that the map is a lot about teamplay.

I will have a closer look into it later !

[Szaman]

Could you please provide some download link for this map?

[Bistoufly]

Make it ctf_Rugged 
Maps should always begin with capital letters in my opinion.
From what I've seen from you last thread, this map seems really good. I also like the look of it & the fact that the map is a lot about teamplay.

I will have a closer look into it later !

Oh yeah,
The first letter capitalized is important for convenience. Since other ctf maps in leagues have it.


I'm curious about which tactics players will develop for this map. I would imagine it a bit like ctf_Death but with more space for creative strats.

[DarkCrusade]

This map is gorgeous!

[Viral]

Ok, name changed to ctf_Rugged, added DL link (Bonecrusher took it down or sth? xD) with new name.

[ZdzichU]

Map is epic i want see it in 1.6.7.

[darDar]

After testing the map I must admit that it might be way to small. I think that was your aim regarding the first name of the map  ..
But I think you should enlarge the map a bit since it is really hard to go through certain areas.
The route on the very low is not much larger than your character is. I think it should at least be 2x your character.
Overall you might try to enlarge the map about 30%.

So, this is just my personal opinion but I think it's quite a problem for a 'default map candidate' if it's a map which is for 'ctf  pro gamers only'.
Nevertheless this map is amazing & somewhat new and I would vote for it to be added in the upcoming release (unless it will be enlarged a bit)

[Viral]

I wasn't completely serious with the prototype name :B Making the map bigger shouldn't be too hard. I'll make a bigger version for comparison. Thanks for feedback :]

Ok, made a bigger version (30%) and i think darDar was right, feels smoother i think:

[ZdzichU]

If i can have some sugestions for this map.

Like on screen. Mid ground make it bigger and this polygon through which you can throw flag longer to respawn spot and low ground lower. All for make it nice to Law-lovers, cuz now law useless in my opinion. Also going to low is strange betwen 2 polys.

Edit: I forgot. Green line means poly who hurt flaggers (or all. i don't know)

[Viral]

What do you mean by making mid "bigger"?
The flag throw spot should be just wider by cutting the normal poly on the left (the side closer to the spawns) or both sides? I can make it wider on the right by a few cm still.
I guess i can move the bottom part lower, but I'm not sure about making changes for law - I don't want to change the layout too much, but if you have any specific ideas that you think would make LAW more usefull here, post them I'll see what i can do. In the end I can always say "just pick something that works" but I guess that won't pass xB

Green part -I don't want hurt polies anywhere, unless you tell me why would it be a good choice but i don't think I'll add them.

Thx <3

[ZdzichU]

I needed to do it 1st.
Its your version


And this is after my changes:


Edit: Sooo mid i bigger. low is "lower" and also bigger a litte. And poly-not-colliding with flag and bullet longer

[Viral]

I moved bottom part as low as i could (I want CB from bottom to be possible to perform) and moved the OPC poly closer to the spawns. I didn't touch mid because I think its too few space in there to make it bigger and it would make going bottom way harder and i don't want it.
If there is nothing more I think I'll make it the default version.
Maybe if it gets more popular and people will demand some changes i can think about it but right now I think I'm done with it.
Thx again <3

[ZdzichU]

I didn't touch mid because I think its too few space in there to make it bigger and it would make going bottom way harder and i don't want it.

I think mid line is for def-flag catcher so it must be more "uphill" and harder imo, but independently of your decision this map will one of my fav if it will be in 1.6.7
btw. Thanks for creating this map

[Viral]

Hmm, how about moving the very middle part up a bit like this:

This way the bottom is more spacious and middle more curvy. What do you think?

[ZdzichU]

Ohh yea. Thats nice idea.
btw. I tested this map and its really "for pros only". Just epic

[Viral]

New version (i hope final one) in the first post. Have fun <3

[nosejj]

Your maps always look fantastic visually-wise. You should try and make some more 'competative-scene' intended maps.
I mean, in this map for example it's really hard to gain fast speed, it's small and compressed. So it may be okay for a 2v2.

I'd love seeing a map with these graphics in 3v3 leagues, but with an ability for a fast-paced match. :o

[Viral]

Its small, but I won't say you cant get fast speed, I'd say more - its way easier than on some of the defaults people play in leagues IMO. It was meant to be 3v3 map and i think its fully playable for 3v3. Hard to test 3v3 games on a singleplayer tho, believe me, I've tried.

[Mittsu]

this map has been added as a custom map to Soldat Realistic League @ sctfl.net

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[Mittsu]

No success

The problem with this map is probably that it's too small and so it's difficult to move around on it

if you rescaled it to be bigger it should be better

[Viral]

I can scale it freely, just give me numbers (20%?30%?1300%?) but I won't be too optymistic with the results. I guess the layout is just meh XB

[Mittsu]

Try 50%, I'm curious to see the result

[Viral]

I only rescaled it, so all sceneries are shit atm, tho it shouldn't effect on gameplay that much (well maybe huge colliders xB).

[ZdzichU]

Map its fine. Small map for technical playing.

[Mittsu]

way better, i'd like to try +40% map size though (compared to original) and it needs more jet (id say 30%?)

[ZdzichU]

way better, i'd like to try +40% map size though (compared to original) and it needs more jet (id say 30%?)

You want to play easy and big map. But Viral made small map for tchnical play, teamworking, and hard to deff.
bt. jets are enough. It must be hard for someone who never played Climbs

[Mittsu]

i like the original, but i was literally the only one, the other players couldn't take the challange and this map would never make it any further. But yeah, it's for CTF not climbing and players want to run and fly with flow, when the map is this small (this would be the smallest ctf map) it has too many obstacles preventing you from having long and  succesful runs without stopping, especially when you're shooting each other. It's probably a matter of practice, but you know, people pussied out :/

[Viral]

140%
30%more jet

[ZdzichU]

Never ever.
Maximal:
20% bigger
10% more jets.

[darDar]

140%
30%more jet

added this version to #gather.eu 

[DarkCrusade]

Great job! Your maps never cease to impress.

[Viral]

xD, not like you didnt comment this map before already, but hey - thx bruh :3

[DarkCrusade]

lol I know! But the new version is much better than the old one. Glad you picked it up again.

[Viral]

Yeah, we tested it a bit, so it's more user friendly i guess :B How about you pick up some of your not finished project, or make a new one to show off a bit :d?

[Bistoufly]

How about you pick up some of your not finished project, or make a new one to show off a bit :d?

You too viral.

[Viral]

After you, Sir ^.-

[Moroes]

You all shall release your masterpieces. Don't make me release my first map, eye-cancer would be the least what you'd get.

[Viral]

I was about to make a release, but now im tempted to hold on untill i see your majesty captured within the .PMS file :3

[DarkCrusade]

I was about to make a release, but now im tempted to hold on untill i see your majesty captured within the .PMS file :3

Good talk! haha. I really want to get my old maps done as well, but there's so much happening in my life right now + christmas and new year coming up.. I simply don't know when!