Cleaner looking F1 menu

[homerofgods]

This is just a quick suggestion of what we can do to clean up the F1 menu a bit. When you use F1 menu it's usually in the middle of a match and you don't want unnecessary info.

The way it looks now:


How it could look:


-Remove lines under Alpha, Bravo, Spectator, ...
-Remove number of players on each team, seriously we can count
-Remove local time, many confuses this with server time and noone check time there anyway
-Remove demo recording name at the bottom, it's not usefull
-Remove total kills per team, who cares?

[Bistoufly]

F12 to everything.


What a difference when you remove all the clutter. 


Also remove team names (Alpha, Bravo, Spectator, ...)

[Mittsu]

i like the original look more

[Shoozza]

And make shift display them again?

How would that look for the classic menu? ;>

[CheeSeMan.]

I just use oldscoremenu=1 in the soldat.ini, I find the older display much nicer

Also I do look at the time so I hope that does not get removed.

[homerofgods]

I just use oldscoremenu=1 in the soldat.ini, I find the older display much nicer

I totally forgot about that.
I guess that solves most of it for me, except -Remove demo recording name at the bottom

Old scoreboard:

[15th_account]

Looks fun. I wanna try it too...



derp

[Bistoufly]

Looks fun. I wanna try it too...



derp

I like it.

[Akinaro]

why removing lines? without them its look worst...

[L[0ne]R]

-Remove lines under Alpha, Bravo, Spectator, ...
-Remove number of players on each team, seriously we can count
-Remove local time, many confuses this with server time and noone check time there anyway
-Remove demo recording name at the bottom, it's not usefull
-Remove total kills per team, who cares?

I disagree with removing total player count from the scoreboard. It's useful when there's a lot of players and makes it a lot easier to tell whether the teams are even or not with a quick glance. Or if you're on a zombie server for example - you can tell how many zombies are on the map (or how many alive, depending on how the script works). Total kills per team is also a nice stat to have IMO, and it doesn't add much clutter.

I do agree about everything else though. Lines are a nice separator, but separation can be improved by improving spacing between certain lines.

Looks fun. I wanna try it too...



derp

I like the idea, but with longer and weirder player names and with kill/death counts and ping going into hundreds it can get very messy, unless the menu stretches with resolution allowing for more horisontal spacing. Here's my take on your idea:

- A slightly wider version (800x wide)
- Removed the flag icon near a cap and instead made the number bold. It already says "cap" at the top, so the icon (which hardly looks like a flag I might add) so I thought the icon was redundant.
- Made team names all-capital letters.
- Added a background for each team.
- Added a line below server info.
- Increased spacing between stat columns.

The more I look at it though, the more I think we should go back to single-column view. Two columns look too cluttered on small resolutions. :/

[Dusty]

-Remove total kills per team, who cares?

I do, it's the only reason I use the new scoreboard.

[CheeSeMan.]

-Remove total kills per team, who cares?

I do, it's the only reason I use the new scoreboard.

It's a nice info when streaming matches also for the commentators.

[Bistoufly]

why removing lines? without them its look worst...

I think the exact opposite.


Less is more.

[Fryer]

F12 for everything except the times. I see no reason to be informed of either local or server time from within a game. Perhaps put the server info over there instead?

[Shoozza]

The regged player star is missing, I'm not sure the full player name fits, the translations wouldn't work, K and D might work for people who know the game but not for newbies especially not when its P and D (P = Points).
Afaik you can have up to 65535 deaths/kills/points.

Time could stay it should be the players local time ofc (not the server time).

The two column layout has the advantage that it could allow for displaying 32 players on one screen.

[L[0ne]R]

F12 for everything except the times. I see no reason to be informed of either local or server time from within a game. Perhaps put the server info over there instead?

Agreed, I forgot to remove those. Though I think it would be useful to show time until end of round there instead.

The regged player star is missing, I'm not sure the full player name fits, the translations wouldn't work, K and D might work for people who know the game but not for newbies especially not when its P and D (P = Points).
Afaik you can have up to 65535 deaths/kills/points.

Time could stay it should be the players local time ofc (not the server time).

The two column layout has the advantage that it could allow for displaying 32 players on one screen.

So, are you sure we should still support 640x480 resolution? So far this limitation has only been getting in the way a lot, and I really doubt the benefits are worth it.

[15th_account]

It's not about supporting 640x480, it's about supporting a 4:3 aspect ratio. Though just because we want to continue supporting it doesn't have to mean that it should dictate the design. Want player names not to be truncated after 15 characters, the score to go above three digits, and have comfortable spacing? Switch to 16:10 or wider.

[Bonecrusher]

I just use oldscoremenu=1 in the soldat.ini, I find the older display much nicer

Also I do look at the time so I hope that does not get removed.

Been using this, there are also other options from what I recall, 2 and 3.

[dominikkk26]

New players do not! I'm all for the ability to change the config.

[Fryer]

It's not about supporting 640x480, it's about supporting a 4:3 aspect ratio. Though just because we want to continue supporting it doesn't have to mean that it should dictate the design. Want player names not to be truncated after 15 characters, the score to go above three digits, and have comfortable spacing? Switch to 16:10 or wider.

Or just require anyone who still wants 4:3 to play on a higher resolution of that ratio. I haven't heard of anyone with a screen not able to support at least 800x600, and if anyone owns a screen like that, they are basically asking for problems anyway.

[15th_account]

Well the interface scales, so it wouldn't matter if your monitor had a 640x480 or 4K resolution with a 4:3 aspect ratio.

[Illuminatus]

All I can say is please DO NOT remove the local time. I use it everytime I play to remind myself to fucking stop playing and do my work. Without it I wouldn't get shit done and procrastinate all day.

[elMorvano]

There should be easy options to set what you want to see there (menu F1). That's all. Always there will be different opinions about this. One would like cut name of teams one wouldn't like this etc. It makes only not important problems and player should have got chance (easy way) to set whatever he wants. Just make it easier for players.

I set F12, because I prefer to have got less not important texts or lines on my screen. Screen is much cleaner and easier and faster to read.

[Toxic Avenger]

All I can say is please DO NOT remove the local time. I use it everytime I play to remind myself to fucking stop playing and do my work. Without it I wouldn't get shit done and procrastinate all day.

This.
It would be unethical.

[Blacksheepboy]

I'm totally preferable to the lines. Ugh, this is sort of an old topic anyway.