Soldat Talk > Weapon Balance Discussion
Barret rant
machina:
--- Quote from: porquilho on December 07, 2016, 04:34:35 pm ---Now the next thing we should do is to remove the lag from the Barret.
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...and make it in such form as a DLC weapon. Eventually, a subscription paid every month. Let's at least get some money before ultimately having Soldat fucked up.
--- Quote from: porquilho on December 07, 2016, 04:34:35 pm ---This has killed that gun for good, its not fun to play with it since it was introduced a lag, you guys ruined a perfectly fine gun.
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Killed the gun for good? Half of Zabijaka servers are filled with Barrett-whores.
Hubiq:
--- Quote from: porquilho on December 07, 2016, 04:34:35 pm ---Now the next thing we should do is to remove the lag from the Barret. This has killed that gun for good, its not fun to play with it since it was introduced a lag, you guys ruined a perfectly fine gun.
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What?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Barrett - this shitty weapon is too strong for a long time. And you want even better? Don't be pathetic.
I hope that Barrett will be worse (in next version 1.8 ).
duz:
--- Quote from: Hubiq on December 10, 2016, 11:17:02 am ---What?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Barrett - this shitty weapon is too strong for a long time. And you want even better? Don't be pathetic.
I hope that Barrett will be worse (in next version 1.8 ).
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This is funny because back in the day where Barrett had zero delay, this was just a sniper rifle, way distant of this super overpower status.
I guess that all this idea about the Barrett is made of it's style, one bullet to kill. People get mad easily because there's someone laying down and killing him with one bullet. If you compare the Barrett to the CS AWP, you can say the same thing about it's power, but there's many ways to counter it. People like Chaky (Chilean national team) can easily rape you with Barrett, with or without delay, and you gonna say that this weapon is OP, even with 1 second delay. If you play against the Barrett like you play against the Steyr AUG, you gonna die easily.
machina:
--- Quote from: duz on December 10, 2016, 02:33:05 pm ---People get mad easily because there's someone laying down and killing him with one bullet.
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Soldat's Barrett is long time not for such purposes. Now it's mainly a rush into an enemy and kill with one shot.
--- Quote from: duz on December 10, 2016, 02:33:05 pm ---If you play against the Barrett like you play against the Steyr AUG, you gonna die easily.
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Unlikely to the other one-shot-one-kill weapon i.e. M79, Barrett has no range limitations so you have to take down opponent within its StartUpTime which is currently 0.316 s. This isn't enough to get yourself close enough for most weapons. For some long range weapons like Ruger, this is gonna give you one hit. You still need one more and you have to hit torso twice to make it fatal. Funnily, on Barrett (with latest 1.7.1 update) you only have to hit a foot once to kill.
So your only tactics is to hope for a miss... Which isn't most likely to happen because in latest update (1.7.1) it has been prevented from happening be decreasing Barrett's MovementAcc. So Barrett's user can jump, backflip and do whatever one desires to do while not affecting an aim at all. But that's the sniper rifle's purpose, wasn't it? Or maybe some time ago we lost it's ultimate goal? To be actually a sniper rifle - not some rushing one-foot-hit-one-kill overpowered weapon. And you don't have to care if opponent is moving because Barrett's bullets are the fastest so there's no need to adjust and foresee opponent's moves to hit one.
Sorry, this post drifted away a bit from the topic but it's still had to be said that Barrett isn't a sniper rifle anymore at all.
darDar:
--- Quote from: machina --- you have to take down opponent within its StartUpTime which is currently 0.316 s. This isn't enough to get yourself close enough for most weapons.
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That's just wrong. There's also reload time to take into account, which is usually used by players with a brain to counter a barret player.
--- Quote ---it has been prevented from happening be decreasing Barrett's MovementAcc. So Barrett's user can jump, backflip and do whatever one desires to do while not affecting an aim at all.
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That's wrong as well. Do you even play Soldat or are you just working on boosting your post count on the forums?
Also, Barret got bink. Means; your shots get inaccurate if you get hit. On a sidenote: wrong topic.
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