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Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« on: April 29, 2018, 12:40:51 pm »

Hello there Soldat boys and girls!

I am glad to present to you a contest for the creation of the Official Soldat Trailer! As you all might know, Soldat is on its way to being released on Steam!
That is why Soldat needs a slick, high standard, top quality video to serve as a game trailer, both for steam and to replace Soldat's Facebook cover photo with an awesome video.

So we are looking for you creative individuals for the task!


Prize
While having your video art featured on Steam and exposed to the masses is already a great prize, an additional prize of $150USD will be transferred to the winner through PayPal!

Deadline
30th May 2018.

Guidelines
* Quality: 4KHD preferably.
* Music: licensed for free re-use (Soldat music can be used)
* Content: Fast paced game-play that gives a good understanding of what Soldat includes: kills, flag-throws, teamwork, bloodbath, nade-boosts, fast and agile movement. Basically anything that can be good advertising for the game.
* Time: 30-90 secs. Short trailers are better, it shouldn't be boring at any point.
* Facebook: In Facebook the video may be between 20 to 90 seconds, while the recommended resolution written in Facebook is 820x462.
* Soldat Settings: Non-modified Soldat (recommended: hide death-log and any unnecessary bloat from the screen).
* Judging and disclaimer: The winner will be picked by MM along with people from THD. We reserve the right to not pick any winner if the quality doesn't satisfy us. Do your best!

Inspiration
* BUTCHER's Official Trailer
* Warsow's Official Trailer
* Soldat Films Presenting ctf_Pod (by rgnr)
* The Beauty of CTF (by evhO)
* Bunch of Control's videos (4K): 1, 2, 3 (Quality is great, and displays quick action. However the flickering and over-use of FX is an overkill at least for Official Trailer).



Good luck to everyone!

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2018, 01:18:44 pm »
Dear Michal, can you give me your PayPal mail? I'd like to add another 20USD to the prize pool. :)


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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2018, 04:07:05 pm »
Also, this video might be useful to give a perspective on marketing aspects of a game trailer on Steam.

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2018, 04:26:46 pm »
I'm in. Hell yeah.  ;) [fist]
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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2018, 03:37:35 am »
Remember to keep your files people, so we can update or change the video later ;)


Sadly I don't have the files for Cap any more, or else I would have remade it to be even better
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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2018, 10:07:04 am »
So is there any ETA  for steam release?

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2018, 12:07:29 pm »
So is there any ETA  for steam release?

Ups... uncomfortable question. You know what is the purpose of this contest? Another month of waiting for information "release date: next month (June 30)".

Why this contest didn't start a month ago? A month ago we got information:

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Hi everyone,
I've been doing lots of talking back between some of the members of the community, and of course Shoozza.
For now I have decided that the best option is to continue development by Shoozza and release Soldat on Steam.
A rough estimate is the end of April, but please don't think this is set in stone, because there are many variables here.

What's next? Let's see... 30th May 2018 - end of "official trailer contest". 31th May 2008 - "Contest: the best icon for soldat".  30th June 2018 - "Contest: the best font for the new logo" (!!! xD). This is absolutely amazing. Half a year waiting for a contest. Official Soldat Trailer Contest. The game was to be released on Steam platform in December 2017. We have a "new release date" every month. After half a year we get information about contest... Contest for best trailer. This is a comedy.

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I'm in. Hell yeah.  ;) [fist]

Also

You really? xD This information about the contest is something like "Look, we're doing something! Work in progress!". Bullshit like all the promises here.
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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2018, 01:10:54 pm »
I am not an official developer or something, so I am not trying to sell you anything. That video was purely in order to help the ones who might want to think more seriously about making the trailer video. It's some good marketing advice for it.
However, I find it a shame there's a great sense of ungratefulness. Please take your negativity someplace else. :)

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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2018, 03:34:17 pm »
I am not an official developer or something, so I am not trying to sell you anything. That video was purely in order to help the ones who might want to think more seriously about making the trailer video. It's some good marketing advice for it.
I was thinking about something else. You said "also  :D" in your previous post. I'm just saying that this contest is just a fiction - the least important thing. Something like: "We didn't do anything in the last month so we will give you a contest! :D"
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However, I find it a shame there's a great sense of ungratefulness. Please take your negativity someplace else. :)
Maybe you're right but it's pathetic. All these promises, news, announcements. Every month we get information about the "new release date". A lot of people were happy that Soldat would be released on the steam platform in december 2017. We have May 2018. A lot of players said "Ok, enough. I don't care". Well, this is my last post here and let's be serious - Soldat will not be released on Steam this year.


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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2018, 03:41:59 pm »
Hubiq, you may be late in your conclusion. Every active player here knows the entire story. Like, me. Check my posts and you'll see the time I'm talking about those things, posting feedback and mockups. Nobody here is being deceived, the rest of this forum knows how the Soldat development workd till now. We all know that there's a high chance to nothing happens again. Whatever. That's the point, w-h-a-t-e-v-er. We're expecting nothing and I'm gonna create a trailer just to satisfy my own desires. I like to edit videos.
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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2018, 03:58:10 pm »
Since @duz has asked me in private message, I'll post it here for the benefit of everyone.

Soldat Logo: 4K Soldat Background (Includes: PSD, PNG + Font).
Font Used: Invisible Killer (DaFont) - If you'd like only the font.


! Take a look at this topic as well: LINK
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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2018, 07:41:48 pm »

Inspiration
* BUTCHER's Official Trailer
* Warsow's Official Trailer
* Soldat Films Presenting ctf_Pod (by rgnr)
* The Beauty of CTF (by evhO)
* Bunch of Control's videos (4K): 1, 2, 3 (Quality is great, and displays quick action. However the flickering and over-use of FX is an overkill at least for Official Trailer).




No offense but for me, only decent trailer was the first one. For a trailer, you need something dynamic, fast and showing variety. 


Good luck to everyone participing tho.

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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2018, 07:55:33 pm »

Inspiration
* BUTCHER's Official Trailer
* Warsow's Official Trailer
* Soldat Films Presenting ctf_Pod (by rgnr)
* The Beauty of CTF (by evhO)
* Bunch of Control's videos (4K): 1, 2, 3 (Quality is great, and displays quick action. However the flickering and over-use of FX is an overkill at least for Official Trailer).




No offense but for me, only decent trailer was the first one. For a trailer, you need something dynamic, fast and showing variety. 


Good luck to everyone participating tho.
None taken. I collected this list. The first and second ones are the only real trailers from this list. The rest is example of either good quality or good content.
It's just to inspire the folks, give some ideas about editing and what not. :)

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2018, 10:40:31 am »
How to get true 4K:

Do this in soldat.ini to get 4K maps before you start recording:
Render_Width=3840
Render_Height=2160

If you are using Shadowplay to record I think it demands a good graphics card to be able to record in 4K 60'fps
I'm using fraps
You should record in 3840x2160 60'FPS

Choose 3840x2160 as your working template in your video editor such as Adobe Premiere.
Transfer your work to After Effects for some demanding effects maybe?
And more importantly, render as 3840x2160 when you're done editing.


There is no use rendering in 4K if your content is not 4K ;) 
Note that the high resolution will demand more of your graphics card and the file sizes will be big.
The render times will also go up
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« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2018, 12:16:29 pm »
How to get true 4K:

Do this in soldat.ini to get 4K maps before you start recording:
Render_Width=3840
Render_Height=2160
When I just set 4K in Config.exe these two vars are still 0. What's the difference?
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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2018, 12:53:41 pm »
How to get true 4K:

Do this in soldat.ini to get 4K maps before you start recording:
Render_Width=3840
Render_Height=2160
When I just set 4K in Config.exe these two vars are still 0. What's the difference?
That might be the same, especially if you have a 4K monitor which I don't, perhaps Urraka could clarify for us if there's any difference at all.
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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2018, 12:59:13 pm »
If you don't have 4K monitor, how can you record 4K using Fraps?
I'm using 4K on Soldat (using Nvidia DSR) and my Fraps can't record the Soldat resolution. All the recorded clips are 1080p.
While recording the game your desktop resolution is 4K or 1080p ?
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« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2018, 01:22:52 pm »
I just tested and it seams I can not record 4K with Fraps. I thought it would record whatever Soldat renders, before it is downscaled to fit my screen, but apparently not.

I think there is a solution though.
Run soldat as Windowed Fullscreen
Use Nvidia DSR to set your desctop resolution to 4K
Record with fraps

I'm gonna try and get back to you
Nope. Don't use fraps I guess
Hell you need a beast of a PC to do this
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« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2018, 01:33:46 pm »
Use Nvidia DSR to set your desctop resolution to 4K
I can set DSR 4.00x but I can't change my desktop resolution to this DSR Resolution. I mean, when I select 3840x2160 the screen goes black and back to 1080p with the msg "Would you like to keep these changes?" Here's the image. Looks like something is blocking it.
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« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2018, 02:01:38 pm »
I have a 1440p monitor. I'm able to set 3840x2160 as desktop resolution with DSR, but Fraps still records in 2560x1440. :s

Shadowplay won't allow me to record in more than 1080p with my GTX780. Even if I have 1440 desktop resolution, 1440 monitor and 1440 settings in shadowplay, the outcome is still 1080p!

I guess if I'm making a trailer I will be rendering Soldat in 4k that is downscaled to 1440.
Not true 4k but still pretty good quality. The downscaling actually gives a nice antialiasing effect (better than normal antialiasing)

I still think there has to be a way to record in 4k
I did manage to get a bit higher frapsed resolution by using Monitor Aero desktop in fraps and Nvidia control panel --> Adjust desktop size, but I didn't get 4k
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« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2018, 03:29:05 pm »
what about streaming in 4k is that possible?

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« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2018, 04:08:50 pm »
I have a 1440p monitor. I'm able to set 3840x2160 as desktop resolution with DSR, but Fraps still records in 2560x1440. :s

Shadowplay won't allow me to record in more than 1080p with my GTX780. Even if I have 1440 desktop resolution, 1440 monitor and 1440 settings in shadowplay, the outcome is still 1080p!

I guess if I'm making a trailer I will be rendering Soldat in 4k that is downscaled to 1440.
Not true 4k but still pretty good quality. The downscaling actually gives a nice antialiasing effect (better than normal antialiasing)

I still think there has to be a way to record in 4k
I did manage to get a bit higher frapsed resolution by using Monitor Aero desktop in fraps and Nvidia control panel --> Adjust desktop size, but I didn't get 4k
You can try to use something like OBS, set the encoding to NVENC.

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« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2018, 04:11:31 pm »
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DVI is almost as confusing as HDMI. A dual-link DVI connection (as opposed to single-link) can handle 2560x1440 at 60Hz, but not 3840x2160 (which is the typical; 4K resolution). This means that unless you have two dual-link DVI outputs and your monitor can accept two inputs (few can), you cannot drive a 4K screen at 60Hz using DVI. If you?re curious, you can run 3840x2400 at 17Hz using DVI, or 33Hz if you have a dual-cable setup.
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The issue is:
I can use DSR 4.00x (aka 4K) in Soldat and rescale to 1080p (my monitor resolution). But I can't record it with any software (Fraps or OBS) unless I set my desktop to 4K.
Here's an image of OBS while my Soldat is running at 4K (at least set to it).

Maybe I can find a way to make it work in OBS, now Fraps is a lot more limited.
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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2018, 05:24:59 pm »
How to get true 4K:

Do this in soldat.ini to get 4K maps before you start recording:
Render_Width=3840
Render_Height=2160
When I just set 4K in Config.exe these two vars are still 0. What's the difference?
That might be the same, especially if you have a 4K monitor which I don't, perhaps Urraka could clarify for us if there's any difference at all.

Correct. Render_Width/Height set to 0 means "default". By default the resolution will match whatever screen resolution (or window size) you choose.
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« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2018, 06:15:50 pm »
@homerofgods:
Fixed somehow. I've tried to connect my monitor through a HDMI cable instead of the Dual-DVI. Then I set to 4K and 8hz (maximum available). My monitor went black and I couldn't recover it.
Back to Dual-DVI, my monitor was showing the message "DVI no signal". Ok, turned off the PC and unplugged the monitor power cable for some seconds. Nothing has been changed. Nothing was reseted.
Booted Windows 10 using the "low video" option (idk the name exactly - it's on the list with safe boot), changed the resolution settings to various settings, then back to 1080p 144hz.
Restarted the PC and finally got signal on desktop.
I've tried again to set DSR 4.00x and SHAZAM! Working, idk why or how.

Hey @PerroAZUL:
Now I can record Soldat at 4K using DSR but OBS can't recognize the game using the Game Capture source. You can see it here: https://i.imgur.com/zGjaZ3Q.png
I was not in the menu but in a CTF map.
The same don't happen on Fullscreen Windowed and Windowed. I can set Game Capture source to soldat.exe on both.

I don't know if it's an issue to fix because I can still record using the source Display Capture or Game Capture using Windowed modes.
PS: When I'm using Fullscreen Windowed and I set DSR to 4.00x, this is the result: https://i.imgur.com/zhb8pOf.jpg
Looks like the background is resized and the game itself isn't.

Idk if it's an issue with DSR at 4K or Soldat at 4K. You could take a look.
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« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2018, 08:40:55 am »
I'm able to start demos in soldat windowed in 4k and record soldat in 4k using fraps.
I do not have to use DSR Actually I do have to enable it
I also have to enable Monitor Aero Desktop in fraps

I had to set 3840x2160 in config.exe and not use render_height render_with
Shadowplay isn't recording more than 1440p for me, but if you have a better gfx card the option will be there I think. It's a shame because Shadowplay seams to give smoother videos than fraps


Ok next step;
Adobe premiere doesn't support the frapsed .avi file  :'(  Maybe using fraps was a bad idea after all
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« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2018, 09:01:01 am »
I also tried custom res but when I opened soldat I couldnt see anything
I couldn't see anything either, but I recorded a demo first, so that when you play back the demo it automatically goes passed the menu.
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« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2018, 11:13:16 am »
I couldn't see anything either, but I recorded a demo first, so that when you play back the demo it automatically goes passed the menu.

I opened in windowed mod and in 4k like u said and it worked . Only problem was the game was zoomed into the map which is very normal in 1080p monitor imo,dsr didnt fix that, thats why before doing these steps u should watch the demos in normal res

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« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2018, 04:47:19 pm »
@homerofgods:
Fixed somehow. I've tried to connect my monitor through a HDMI cable instead of the Dual-DVI. Then I set to 4K and 8hz (maximum available). My monitor went black and I couldn't recover it.
Back to Dual-DVI, my monitor was showing the message "DVI no signal". Ok, turned off the PC and unplugged the monitor power cable for some seconds. Nothing has been changed. Nothing was reseted.
Booted Windows 10 using the "low video" option (idk the name exactly - it's on the list with safe boot), changed the resolution settings to various settings, then back to 1080p 144hz.
Restarted the PC and finally got signal on desktop.
I've tried again to set DSR 4.00x and SHAZAM! Working, idk why or how.

Hey @PerroAZUL:
Now I can record Soldat at 4K using DSR but OBS can't recognize the game using the Game Capture source. You can see it here: https://i.imgur.com/zGjaZ3Q.png
I was not in the menu but in a CTF map.
The same don't happen on Fullscreen Windowed and Windowed. I can set Game Capture source to soldat.exe on both.

I don't know if it's an issue to fix because I can still record using the source Display Capture or Game Capture using Windowed modes.
PS: When I'm using Fullscreen Windowed and I set DSR to 4.00x, this is the result: https://i.imgur.com/zhb8pOf.jpg
Looks like the background is resized and the game itself isn't.

Idk if it's an issue with DSR at 4K or Soldat at 4K. You could take a look.

I'm not really familiar with how these capturing programs work, so other than explaining soldat configs I can't be of much help. Also note that I'm not in devteam anymore so not like I'm going to fix anything either :D

When you set DSR to 4.00x (which I have no idea what it is), I suppose you do that *before* running soldat, right?
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« Reply #30 on: May 04, 2018, 02:56:31 am »
DSR 4.00x is Nvidias way of enabling higher resolution than your monitor support.
1080 x 4.00 = 4k.
I have a 1440 monitor so I would enable x 2.50 to get 4k
When you enable DSR you can choose higher resolutions in the same way as you normally choose resolution. Unless you choose windowed, the game will first render in 4k and then downscaled to fit your screen. This downscale creates a nice antialiasing effect on a higher quality image, so that 4k downscaled to 1440 looks much better than to just show 1440.

You would think 8k downscaled to 1440 would look even better, but it looks too fuzzy, I think too much downscaling is bad.
I don't know if it's the same for 4k downscaled to 1080?? Bisoufly?

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #31 on: May 04, 2018, 05:40:39 pm »
DSR 4.00x is Nvidias way of enabling higher resolution than your monitor support.
1080 x 4.00 = 4k.
I have a 1440 monitor so I would enable x 2.50 to get 4k
When you enable DSR you can choose higher resolutions in the same way as you normally choose resolution. Unless you choose windowed, the game will first render in 4k and then downscaled to fit your screen. This downscale creates a nice antialiasing effect on a higher quality image, so that 4k downscaled to 1440 looks much better than to just show 1440.

You would think 8k downscaled to 1440 would look even better, but it looks too fuzzy, I think too much downscaling is bad.
I don't know if it's the same for 4k downscaled to 1080?? Bisoufly?

Actually 1080p(1920x1080) x 4.00 is 8k which is 7,680x4,320 . 1080p x 2 = 4k but DSR doesnt do anything useful for me . Like i said only way that works for me is opening in windowed in 4k/2k with a zoomed look

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2018, 11:00:00 am »
Hey,
I hope there's progress on the trailers. Good luck :).

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« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2018, 03:12:26 am »
Hey,
I hope you actually do something more than post month late content, especially when you admitted  that you "always want Soldat on steam"  :)

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2018, 10:53:45 am »
MY SOLDAT TRAILER CONTEST ENTRY

https://youtu.be/JAGS3OG0SWs

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2018, 01:51:44 pm »
Epic, ComaG6PD!

My only improvement suggestion (that you already know of), is to rid the frames that appear twice around 0:05-0:07.
Then again, saw numerous people saying on Discord how it's only 1 game mode - gotta say with this outcome, doesn't bother me all that much.

GOOD JOB!


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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2018, 04:14:15 pm »
I dont get why everyone is so pushy on getting an actual date for steam release. Yes, their initial promise of April was not fulfilled and likely wont be released anytime soon, but do you really want the current version of soldat to be on steam?

You don't get to release to steam twice, so the first time better be perfect or close to. The current version of soldat would not do well on steam so let the delay happen. As long as we are getting some time of development I feel the game is moving forward. At the same time you dont want it to be so delayed that the buzz for the game dies down but we'll have to worry about that later.

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2018, 02:30:51 am »
I dont get why everyone is so pushy on getting an actual date for steam release. Yes, their initial promise of April was not fulfilled and likely wont be released anytime soon, but do you really want the current version of soldat to be on steam?
I would rather call it local meme. Steam release date is just a joke, just like release it self :D

You don't get to release to steam twice, so the first time better be perfect or close to. The current version of soldat would not do well on steam so let the delay happen. As long as we are getting some time of development I feel the game is moving forward. At the same time you dont want it to be so delayed that the buzz for the game dies down but we'll have to worry about that later.

Dont spend your time on it, I tried to tell them that and releasing soldat in that stage is just fricking hilarious joke :D
But MM dont care about it, he would rather spend 150 on prize rather than... I dont know, advertising game, update site and assets to look more profesional? Spend it on actual development? Get more people with actual experience rather than random blocks from game who dont do much because its not their job?


No matter how good trailer you gonna get, game without some major changes, especially in terms of UI/customization/look will hit the bottom after 2-3 weeks of initial hype that older players will do installing it, then because of annoying UI, lack of any proper features of online game(local/global stats, proper customization) it will be immediately dumped by any new player.
Its not even about that Soldat is hard, its not, every game have learning curve, but its a matter of showing game to average new player to see reaction you can expect, because even crappy one-person-made games on steam look better than Soldat, and I dont mean maps here... 

If any one thing that Trailer will help promote game... you live in some weird dream world... :D

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2018, 05:53:09 am »
Trailer entries: please keep your original files! Because if your trailer wins, we'll still want to do some edits, like add proper logos and stuff. Thanks :).

Ratman, Akinaro: the goal of the Steam release is not to be super succesful on Steam or compete with other games. Of course Soldat at this stage probably won't attract any new players because simply put it's a 16 year old game. Our goal is to keep the current playerbase and give them an easy way to play Soldat with friends + remind old Soldat fans that this game still exists and they can now play it through Steam. So we're catering to old fans and bringing them back. That's why we don't make any radical changes, we just want Soldat to live on Steam.

Revamping the whole game for a modern look is out of the question, it would take a few years at this pace. So I think releasing what we have is the best for Soldat's future.
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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2018, 06:43:38 am »
No one is talking about revamping or remaking whole game, but adjust it to modern times, especially UI, because Soldat have everything what game need to be played even with its current WM and not that great netcode that old players cry all the time(compared to other games this is nothing...)

If all that Steam and Trailer content is to just "make happy" current playerbase.... of maybe 100-120 players where 30-40 play in public/gather regularly this steam releas is useless as glass of water in the middle of ocean...

Soldat need fresh blood, not nursing old players who will be crying even more after that release.

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2018, 02:50:05 am »

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2018, 01:31:25 pm »
I think we need to make some Soldat memes. ;d
Feel free to share it everywhere, just don't forget it's made by me. ;p

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2018, 01:54:17 pm »
I think we need to make some Soldat memes

Here ya go
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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #43 on: May 22, 2018, 06:00:17 pm »
Alright, new memes ahead!

[Admin/Mod please make topic "Soldat Memes" in the thread it should be and copy posts there. :) ]

Two of those memes are made by Besteher (they have his logo). Rest is mine ofc.

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #44 on: May 22, 2018, 07:45:53 pm »
I think we need to make some Soldat memes

Here ya go

This one made me laugh.
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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #45 on: May 23, 2018, 04:46:39 pm »
My soldat trailer entry! Hope you like it :)
https://youtu.be/v6mWunhUwdI

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #46 on: May 23, 2018, 05:06:19 pm »
My soldat trailer entry! Hope you like it :)
https://youtu.be/v6mWunhUwdI
Sequel beats the previous one! XD

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #47 on: May 24, 2018, 02:34:09 am »
My soldat trailer entry! Hope you like it :)
https://youtu.be/v6mWunhUwdI

Its peace of art... it perfectly show 10 years of intensive and thoughtful development of Soldat that we love so much an want to see on Steam release.
This is the winner, 150$ is yours for sure!

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #48 on: May 24, 2018, 03:27:30 am »
Our goal is to keep the current playerbase and give them an easy way to play Soldat with friends + remind old Soldat fans that this game still exists and they can now play it through Steam.

Man... REALLY?! I can't belive it. In December you wrote something completely different! btw. There are ~50-60 active players on discord [other people just sitting there and don't play any matches] and 20-30 active players on public servers. 100 people - this is the real community of this game. We need new players!

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #49 on: May 24, 2018, 01:07:50 pm »
Our goal is to keep the current playerbase and give them an easy way to play Soldat with friends + remind old Soldat fans that this game still exists and they can now play it through Steam.

Man... REALLY?! I can't belive it. In December you wrote something completely different! btw. There are ~50-60 active players on discord [other people just sitting there and don't play any matches] and 20-30 active players on public servers. 100 people - this is the real community of this game. We need new players!

I also lold at this insta-link: ok stop investing your time in this game

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #50 on: May 28, 2018, 04:29:03 pm »
My soldat trailer entry! Hope you like it :)
https://youtu.be/v6mWunhUwdI
It's perfect xD

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #51 on: May 29, 2018, 01:14:55 am »
Our goal is to keep the current playerbase and give them an easy way to play Soldat with friends + remind old Soldat fans that this game still exists and they can now play it through Steam.

There's Soldat's Steam Group and there's only 320 ppl in it... I know ppl who played Soldat could just not join it, but this is how it looks - you will only get 320 old players for initial hype and maybe they will stay [BUT PROBABLY NOT, WHEN THEY'LL SEE THAT THIS IS JUST HD 1.7, NOT 1.8].

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #52 on: May 29, 2018, 01:59:43 am »
Our goal is to keep the current playerbase and give them an easy way to play Soldat with friends + remind old Soldat fans that this game still exists and they can now play it through Steam.

There's Soldat's Steam Group and there's only 320 ppl in it... I know ppl who played Soldat could just not join it, but this is how it looks - you will only get 320 old players for initial hype and maybe they will stay [BUT PROBABLY NOT, WHEN THEY'LL SEE THAT THIS IS JUST HD 1.7, NOT 1.8].

One moment! He really wants to release 1.7.1 version without any changes on steam? xD 1.7.1 full of bugs and cheats? I got a private message with a link to the aimbot-hack from "Programisius". Other players probably too. And THIS VERSION is to be released on steam?

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #53 on: May 29, 2018, 02:17:49 am »
Lol, its one day to end of that amazing and exciting content and we have two videos :D :D :D

I vote for Viral one!

To those 10 people who login to this forum once per week, vote for Viral trailer too!


« Last Edit: May 29, 2018, 02:20:22 am by Akinaro »

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #54 on: May 29, 2018, 11:11:06 am »
Lol, its one day to end of that amazing and exciting content and we have two videos :D :D :D

I vote for Viral one!

To those 10 people who login to this forum once per week, vote for Viral trailer too!

Yea would you even care even its own creator doesnt care about his game.Its normal.

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #55 on: May 29, 2018, 11:34:45 am »
Yeah, MM, quote "always wanted" to get Soldat on steam, but for past years and months I didnt saw any news or even gossips on gather/servers that he actually did anything specific to make PROPER steam release. Still ALL work is in hand of 2-3 people that work schedule is not really good...
It would not kill him to spend some time on game that put him where he is now(THD) especially when I fallow new about thd and not much happen really. Butcher game is not that great to be honest, and Soldat have WAY bigger potential and all its need is just some proper, unified look, PROPER advertising, modern UI and some must-have features like stats and customization. Thats it, even netcode or WM flamewar is not big deal, other games have much worst problems.

If that would be made/started year or even half year ago I would have some hope, but now, today, Its just hilarious and I dont expect anything just like most of people, and its sad because Soldat have potential, but no one treat it as a product, proper game, so here we are now with amazing trailer content amazing steam release... :D

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #56 on: May 30, 2018, 01:52:50 pm »
Our goal is to keep the current playerbase and give them an easy way to play Soldat with friends + remind old Soldat fans that this game still exists and they can now play it through Steam.

There's Soldat's Steam Group and there's only 320 ppl in it... I know ppl who played Soldat could just not join it, but this is how it looks - you will only get 320 old players for initial hype and maybe they will stay [BUT PROBABLY NOT, WHEN THEY'LL SEE THAT THIS IS JUST HD 1.7, NOT 1.8].

One moment! He really wants to release 1.7.1 version without any changes on steam? xD 1.7.1 full of bugs and cheats? I got a private message with a link to the aimbot-hack from "Programisius". Other players probably too. And THIS VERSION is to be released on steam?

Well they "are working" on fixing major bugs and some other shit like network stuff & sphagetti code, you know, so they will call it 1.7.2, but still, this is going to be much the same ver. as 1.7.1.

Again about Astral (Programisius) - not PROBABLY other players, too, but FOR SURE [I also got it]. :D And it's not just aimbot, in this hack - you have all "skills" you can think off and even more, I didn't even imagine what cheater can do with such a hax.
(YEAH! CENSORE THOSE POSTS, YOU "FOLLOW-RULES-ADMIN/MOD", if you do, LOLDAT is 101% real ;D)

F*ck Yeah! I vote for Eduardo Tolosa's trailer!... w8, ah sorry, my bad... for Viral's one! And all ppl from ~TF~, too for sure. XD

I think that MM "want Soldat on Steam" is just an ambition, but he is too lazy to do it himself. Besides... he has that f*cking company THD, their logo is in many stuff in Soldat, even on freaking INF FLAG, BUT THEY DO NOT WORK ON GAME NOW! WHY IS THAT?!
And this is not that we don't want it on Steam, MM, but those are just community's tips. We all want it there, but there's no point in doing so right now.
Just maybe rethink whole thing.
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1. Stop postpoing release date, and just don't give imaginery dates.
2. Get proper dev-team, maybe from THD, maybe join yourself, start real everyday work.
3. Advertise some, even in your other games.
4. Remake Soldat to v1.8.
5. Now release?
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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #57 on: May 30, 2018, 04:28:00 pm »
MY SOLDAT TRAILER CONTEST ENTRY

https://youtu.be/JAGS3OG0SWs
Great trailer. The music creates a good imersion and grabs people's attention.

I couldn't do anything decent because finding a near perfect copyright free song was hard and my pc was struggling to edit the 4K footage, then others things appeared at the same time, like being the coach of a brazilian CSGO pro team. The team is going to europe, so I have lots of important things to do right now.

MM, the Steam page needs the trailer but also a gameplay video. In my opinion a trailer without the crosshair and some infos about the gamemodes won't give the audience the exact knowledge about what Soldat is about.

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #58 on: May 30, 2018, 06:48:55 pm »
MY SOLDAT TRAILER CONTEST ENTRY

https://youtu.be/JAGS3OG0SWs
Great trailer. The music creates a good imersion and grabs people's attention.

I couldn't do anything decent because finding a near perfect copyright free song was hard and my pc was struggling to edit the 4K footage, then others things appeared at the same time, like being the coach of a brazilian CSGO pro team. The team is going to europe, so I have lots of important things to do right now.

MM, the Steam page needs the trailer but also a gameplay video. In my opinion a trailer without the crosshair and some infos about the gamemodes won't give the audience the exact knowledge about what Soldat is about.



Seconded on both points. Love the trailer and agree that gameplay videos would help explain the game.
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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #59 on: May 31, 2018, 03:23:27 pm »
Now a month of waiting for the results of the contest. Who will be the winner? This is a big deal.

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #60 on: May 31, 2018, 04:32:04 pm »
MY SOLDAT TRAILER CONTEST ENTRY

https://youtu.be/JAGS3OG0SWs

Best Soldat trailer I've ever seen made, good job. Too bad there was only one entry for this contest though, I was hoping there would be trailers showcasing other gamemodes and community mods, but oh well. What we've got is already pretty good.  [fist]


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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #61 on: June 01, 2018, 01:47:41 am »
MY SOLDAT TRAILER CONTEST ENTRY

https://youtu.be/JAGS3OG0SWs

Best Soldat trailer I've ever seen made, good job. Too bad there was only one entry for this contest though, I was hoping there would be trailers showcasing other gamemodes and community mods, but oh well. What we've got is already pretty good.  [fist]

Yes, the trailer is nice but soldat is not just a CTF mode. Where is typical DeathMatch, Hold The Flag or Teammatch. Or maybe smaller modes like Climbs and 1vs1? 5 seconds to show each mode and it would be much better. A new player may think that this game has only one gamemode.
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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #62 on: June 01, 2018, 03:00:37 am »
What about zombies?! Soldat is nothing without zombies

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #63 on: June 01, 2018, 04:02:37 am »
Lol, all those comments... Beside viral trailer(that should be winner), there is literally ONE trailer from  ComaG6PD,  so hard to call any other trailer good... And as other people mentioned Soldat is not only CTF, and trailer should show ALL good aspect of game, and  ComaG6PD trailer is just really dull in that terms...

Overall this content is big, funny fail :D
MM, or even any dev didnt even show up to end it... nice, if they cant even show up to set end to content that they made how any of user can bother to do anything?

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #64 on: June 01, 2018, 04:13:56 am »
Now a month of waiting for the results of the contest. Who will be the winner? This is a big deal.
Everyone's gonna win, but none of trailers is gonna be used! ;D

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #65 on: June 01, 2018, 06:19:18 am »
MM, or even any dev didnt even show up to end it...?

XD We have to wait until next month.

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #66 on: June 01, 2018, 06:34:41 am »
Trailer should show all modes, not just CTF. Few months ago I'd do it but I sold my PC, now I have just weak laptop
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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #67 on: June 01, 2018, 08:09:25 am »
Thank you for both (sigh) entries. And thanks for the memes :)

Coma wins the trailer contest.
I think it's a fantastic trailer so I'm glad and well done!
Please contact me via e-mail and we'll sort out the details mm@thd.vg.

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #68 on: June 02, 2018, 05:58:02 am »
Thank you everyone for your feedbacks-grats and thank you for hosting this contest .I'm glad that I'm a parf of it .
Since this is a beta version of the trailer ,It's gonna be improved after final render .
Another thing I want to say is I agree that there also should be some gameplay videos so If you have any question about recording demos ,editing or any idea about the trailer ,hit me up through discord pm anytime  :)

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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #69 on: June 03, 2018, 08:15:18 am »
HELL YEA NICE TRAILER IM THERE!! :D LOL nosejj u had to censure that word haha

Coma if you want pm me here or on Discord (RBK) I can send you like thousands of really good actions demos from soldat gathers if you will need any more

barret triple kills etc. I think we should add it to trailer
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Re: Official Soldat Trailer Contest (deadline - 30th May 2018)
« Reply #70 on: June 05, 2018, 04:08:31 pm »
GZ, Coma! Good job, and thank you so much for contributing!! <3