Religion

[Hootie hoo]

Oh my God, he finally went over the edge.
Of course anyone who pulls a "stunt" like that is desperate. Do you seriously think anyone who reads that isn't going to go back and check my post? xD

Oh, and I'd still like to know how you can be simultaniously Chsitain and Satanic.

[Smegma]

Oh my God, he finally went over the edge.
Of course anyone who pulls a "stunt" like that is desperate. Do you seriously think anyone who reads that isn't going to go back and check my post? xD

I want you to put two and two together. If you know so god damn much about your religion you'd realise your irony with the "Well said".

[Hootie hoo]

Oh my God, he finally went over the edge.
Of course anyone who pulls a "stunt" like that is desperate. Do you seriously think anyone who reads that isn't going to go back and check my post? xD

I want you to put two and two together. If you know so god damn much about your religion you'd realise your irony with the "Well said".

The post I was referring to had nothing to do with Satanism.
God.
I'm glad I have to leave now. You're absolutely undesirable.

[Smegma]

Oh my God, he finally went over the edge.
Of course anyone who pulls a "stunt" like that is desperate. Do you seriously think anyone who reads that isn't going to go back and check my post? xD

I want you to put two and two together. If you know so god damn much about your religion you'd realise your irony with the "Well said".

The post I was referring to had nothing to do with Satanism.
God.
I'm glad I have to leave now. You're absolutely undesirable.

So are you, atleast we can agree on something. Hopefully you won't become a theologist.

[The Geologist]

That nilist attitude is exactly the reason we have so many problems to begin with.�  It's just too selfish to say that giving people in the future the chance to experience the same comforts we do in a world that isn't f*cked up and trashed is somehow a bad thing.�  It makes no sense whatsoever.

Just off yourself now and get it over with, sheesh.

Hahaha, I think you missed the point. The world is always full of problems and always will be. While it is very nihilistic, I still don't just think people should do what ever the **** they want. As I said, I won't just change my whole lifestyle so I have no joy, but practical things make sense.

I'm just getting riled up, I go to a school where we are forced to take conservation **** and they shove things down our throat while remaining to say "we just want you to be you". I don't care if you want to dedicate you life to cause, if you find joy in it...fine. Don't expect me to change my whole lifestyle to fit yours.

That's just it - my aim is not to take the joy out of things, just find aternatives to keeping that joy without some of the negatives. � Things like alternative energy sources or cleaning up waste/mine slag don't demand change from the majority of people, only those involved with mining or energy. � If that's not you, then there's no need to worry. � You would only stand to benefit from, say, a cleaned up mine that isn't leaking highly acidic and toxic waters which pollute the ground and drinking water.

I think we missed each other a bit on this one..getting riled up an an arguement seems to happen quite a bit to me as well.

[SadistAtHeart]

Religion = Wars, debates, fanatics, and many other problems.

Which is why I am an "apathetic-agnostic."

[Smegma]

That nilist attitude is exactly the reason we have so many problems to begin with.  It's just too selfish to say that giving people in the future the chance to experience the same comforts we do in a world that isn't f*cked up and trashed is somehow a bad thing.  It makes no sense whatsoever.

Just off yourself now and get it over with, sheesh.

Hahaha, I think you missed the point. The world is always full of problems and always will be. While it is very nihilistic, I still don't just think people should do what ever the **** they want. As I said, I won't just change my whole lifestyle so I have no joy, but practical things make sense.

I'm just getting riled up, I go to a school where we are forced to take conservation **** and they shove things down our throat while remaining to say "we just want you to be you". I don't care if you want to dedicate you life to cause, if you find joy in it...fine. Don't expect me to change my whole lifestyle to fit yours.

That's just it - my aim is not to take the joy out of things, just find aternatives to keeping that joy without some of the negatives.  Things like alternative energy sources or cleaning up waste/mine slag don't demand change from the majority of people, only those involved with mining or energy.  If that's not you, then there's no need to worry.  You would only stand to benefit from, say, a cleaned up mine that isn't leaking highly acidic and toxic waters which pollute the ground and drinking water.

I think we missed each other a bit on this one..getting riled up an an arguement seems to happen quite a bit to me as well.

I'm fine with anything for the most part, if it doesn't take up much of my time. I'll get a new car, or take a few minutes out of my life to do something if it is mandated or even encouraged. An example, though, is that I actually might get into developing the use of the new alternative energy sources (my second choice of a career), but my intentions aren't to help the earth but because I like the field of work.

I get riled up a lot too, when unnecessary. I'm just use to a bunch of stupid people without any regard to anyone elses logic arguing with me. Not that you are, but I sometimes jump a few steps and things get muddled like this.

[Keron Cyst]

... My goal is to one day become a great politician and to become a catalyst of god. I will help fulfill the prophecy in revelations so that all people can see that the good book is true. Plus, people who aren't Christan are annoying. I guess I would be slightly satisfied to see a tree-hugging "agnostic" crying at the end of times because he understands how useless his life has been. 

Are you serious? To be honest, given your poker-faced post I can't really tell if you're joking or not.

Oh, and Baptist Christian. I absolutely detest the ignorance of some so-called "Christians," tho'; some of their lifestyles are indistinguishable or even a bit worse than those who aren't!

[Wraithlike]

This post has so much idiocy contained, I feel I must split it into at least two sections.

I saw this thread and decided to post my aspirations in life to help Christianity. Guess if anybody decides to quote this when I'm finished in college, I could simply delete the post and say it was a creatively fabricated lie.

First off, let me just congratulate you for being such a complete and total hypocrite. I � find the fact that you can post something so moronic and bigoted, yet say that you're not sure and you might rethink your beliefs later incredibly funny.

The fact that you mention this, is very revealing of you as a person; it shows how indecisive you are and how easily your opinion is affected by others. I really can't see someone as indecisive as you act being an adequate leader of anything, as you say you aspire to be later in your post.

My goal is to one day become a great politician and to become a catalyst of god. I will help fulfill the prophecy in revelations so that all people can see that the good book is true. Plus, people who aren't Christan are annoying. I guess I would be slightly satisfied to see a tree-hugging "agnostic" crying at the end of times because he understands how useless his life has been. � 

Let's just assume that when you say you want to be a great politician, you mean president of the United States, though this would apply for almost any Developed capitolist country on earth. To be a catalyst of god would mean that you want to integrate church and state, thus limiting a very basic freedom. It also seems like you wish to remove a successful democracy in favor of what seems like a Theocratic Dictatorship.

Now lets back up for a moment and look at some of the wonderful people who wished to be god's "catalyst".

Phillip II: Had millions of american natives killed to promote the spread of Catholicism. As well as many other atrocities.
Adolf Hitler: Though technically, "ethnic cleasning" if relgion wasn't a factor in the slaughter of millions of primarily Jewish civilians, please stop me now.
Queen Mary I of England (Bloody Mary): Killed hundred of protestants simply for being protestant.

Now for some that might be enough, but lets look at another wonderful religious movement: The Crusades. An entire series of wars where even children fought, simply for the spread of christianity.

Now to continue. I love how sure of yourself you are when you say you wish to show everybody that your so called "good book" is true. Going back for a moment to my previous point, what will you do to those who don't see your "good book" as true? The world really needs another psychotic religious genocidal overlord killing people over religion.

Now to continue, you state very bluntly, that "people who aren't Christian are annoying". This may be the greatest example of bigotry I've ever seen. I guess when you say this you're saying you are annoyed by the majority of earth population, which includes billions of people you haven't met and never will meet.

For this part, I actually have a question. What exactly do you mean by "tree-hugging 'agnostics'". Because I see no relation.

Just as a side note, I have no issues with christians or christianity. What I have problems with are bigots, hypocrites, people who wish to force their opinions on others, and people who insult my beliefs with no provacation.

Now go talk a long walk off a short pier, Jesus.

[Infernale]

Hootie, I'm not going to "giggle" at the fact you became a satanist last week
you're right about your branch, Satan is only a symbol, and you're actually left-hand-path following atheists.

But you should know that satanism is way more complex than what you make it to be.

I'm not saying you arent a real satanist, I'm not saying others who practice satanism in a different way arent satanists, I'm just pointing the fact that EVERY religion has different branches and sects and groups, and moderated followers together with extremist followers.

I'm not a satanist, even if it is the best religion in my opinion. a religion completely based on the love for life and humans, and a deep rejection towards all that is material and wrong. Even if it is still a bit contradictory sometimes just like all others.

Let me explain myself:
I was born jewish, forced by my parents to follow the jewish life style untill I was old enough to notice I dont believe in anything of the likes and should get my answers somewhere else. that happened when I was 9 years old.

And ever since I've deeply studied every existing religion and culture, every myth and fable.
And I got to a simple fact: Gods are something humans need to believe in. Nice. Doesn't suit me, therefore I believe in nothing, besides myself. unlike other fanatics of their own religion (and I am a fanatic of my own religion, which means believing in myself...) I dont try to "convert" others. I respect people for what they are regardless of their belief and religions.





And once again, I'm just random.

[Zero72]

I could be classified as an agnostic, but I lean a little towards the "atheism" side of the fence, rather than anything else.

That's me. I'm agnostic, but can't quite happily settle down in atheism territory.

It's just kind of the way my mind works. I cannot readily accept the existence of a God, but neither can I completely rule it out. In order to really believe in God, He's gonna have to come down here, smack me upside the head and say "Hi, I'm God. Path of righteousness -- Go."

[Brock]

Other than me saying OMG, once in a while, I don't have anything to do with religion.

I am atheist.

I don't hate others for believing whatever they believe.  I don't deny there is a god, or whatever.  I just have no faith.

I'm a scientific person.  If they show me HARD EVIDENCE, there were/are ANY gods, then I might believe.

[Milkman Dan]

Ok, what the Hell.

It seems people don't actually understand Satanism and since I can't be ****ed reading everything people said I'll just pretend I did.

Yes, Satanism is an Atheist... well it's more of a philisophy but for the sake of it I'll call it a Religion. Satanists are born this way. Many people are, yet they don't want to admit it. Satanists are materialistic and epicurean. We don't believe in a God, Devil etc. so therefore the universe is 'indifferent' to our existance. This means that whatever happens in life has to have been caused by the people around you and yourself.

Being that we're atheists, then we don't believe in an afterlife. So therefore it's common sense to live life on earth as best you can. Which then comes in with the whole 'living for ones self' thing. People's prioritys should be on themselves. You don't get anywhere in life always thinking about other people and forgetting yourself. You'll lose a lot of respect that way and people will walk all over you. Clearly, it's best to take care of yourself first and foremost, and the ones you care about. Loving your enemys is a completely retarded thing to do. You can't waste time and love trying to reconcile differences between you and your enemy, someone who clearly has ill intent toward you. It's better to hate them and love those who return the kindness with a whole heart.

I'm not a devil worshipper. Satanism is the left hand path, advancement and self improvement through the self.

I actually have no idea what I wrote so... i'll just post it.

[VijchtiDoodah]

Wouldn't it be in your best interest to turn your enemies into your friends?  It's the best course of action to ensure that you live a full life -- even if you have to wait a bit to exact your revenge.  Perhaps the Christians weren't so far off from your point of view when they decided to manipulate their enemies for their cause.

By the way, atheism and belief of an afterlife aren't mutually exclusive.

[l0st_b0iz]

You'll find that the majority of Satanists are mis-judged with the likes of Lucifarians(did I get that word right?), all of whom are NOT ill intentioned/"evil". Its just like Buddhism is to Hinduism, Satanism is to Christianity. They are not the complete opposites to the other, but simply just alternate ways of living,

[Field Marshal]

Religion = Wars, debates, fanatics, and many other problems.

What I find quite funny is that the ones argueing are not even professing "Christians". All the "Christians" in this thread are keeping their mouths shut because they know how silly getting into these debates are. Note, I use Christian as those who are professing born again believers in Christ.

With that out of the way, I am a born again Baptist believer in Christ.


To touch breifly on another subject, and please don't start another arguement on this, just read what I'm posting without wanting to post a 5 page hate reply against me :p
It was said earlier that non Christians don't "pick on" Christians. This could not be farther from the truth and is evidenced by the liberal news media in so many ways it would take days to write it out. Such as the censorship of Christian themes in veggie tales on one of the local channels "can't remeber which one" and them wanting to play somthing with madonna being crucified making a mockery of Christ. My point is, Christians are shoved down as much as possible as much as any other group if not more and anyone denying this is simply fooling themselves.
Anyhoo that's my $.02. As I said before I really don't want to get into a discussion over this so please just let it be, and if you really must talk about it use the PM feature or contact me on AIM.

Field Marshal, out

*walks away into a wall*

[The Geologist]

Depends on where you live, really..in the bible belt Christians are so prevelant it's hard to look around without seeing some sort of reference to the religion on television, radio, or elsewhere (at least that's been my experience so far down here).  But on that note, as a non-Christian I see as much of "picked on" mentality from those with the faith to those who don't have the faith.  Two sides of the same coin I guess.  But picked on more than any other group?  Now I think you're exhaggerating a bit.

If you don't want to discuss, why post it on a forum?

[Chariot]

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Christian.

Theres a great topic on this on the :[DS]: Forums.
http://dssoldatclan.proboards61.com/index.cgi?board=discuss&action=display&thread=1143519474&page=1

[Milkman Dan]

You'll find that the majority of Satanists are mis-judged with the likes of Lucifarians(did I get that word right?), all of whom are NOT ill intentioned/"evil". Its just like Buddhism is to Hinduism, Satanism is to Christianity. They are not the complete opposites to the other, but simply just alternate ways of living,

If you're refering to Luciferianism, that is pretty much Satanism except they believe Lucifer is a far more.. pure(?) symbol for what they believe in.
Also, I suppose you could say, though, that Satanism IS an opposite to Christianity, and all other white light religions. Satanism represents man's carnal desires rather than spirituality like others do.

Another thing is, like Satanism is the Setian beliefs of the Temple Of Set. They're also a Left Hand path organisation and spawned from the original ideas of the early Church of Satan. I've looked into it myself. They have pylons all over the world and would mean I'd get to actually join and participate in their activities. But at this stage of my life I don't think I could devote enough time to it (lazy).

It was said earlier that non Christians don't "pick on" Christians. This could not be farther from the truth and is evidenced by the liberal news media in so many ways it would take days to write it out.

But you do admit that it works the other way around, right? There's a lot of 'picking on' towards muslims from Christians. Christians 'picking on' other beliefs. The number of times at University I've gotten into arguements with people coming up to me 'spreading the gospel' trying to tell me that I was wrong. That I was believing in lies. One guy had the nerve to tell me that I could only say that my way was right if I had looked at EVERY single possibility there was and decided that it was right. When I asked him that same thing, he said he had.

[reckon]

I didnt even bother to read the first post of this thread nor any prattle that ensued.
I dont know if this a poll thread about your religion, I dont know if this is a debate about who or what you believe in, I dont know if this is a thread about your religious morals.
Believe in the common good of man, then all will be fine.