Spas Un-Balanced

[Gold]

The spas is a tad un-balanced. i beleive it should deal more damage than what is does and there are some solutions but others think less damage and higher reload
 

[Jermies]

Spas is incredibly overpowered. Ruger damage and a Deagle clip. It is the most über weapon on small maps. And with the gradual reload... if you kill someone with 2 pellets, and will take alot less time to reload than with the other weapons.
And it is radically overpowered with bezerker.

[Gold]

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[Jermies]

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[Gold]

thanks

[Unlucky XIII]

Spas is incredibly overpowered.

Incredibly overpowered is a bit of an overstatement. Sure, it is powerful, but not in every situation. If the enemy flagger is going towards their base, the Spas can be your own worst enemy with the push it will give them. It also does not have very good range in comparison to some weapons. Although it is overpowered, slightly or not, it still has some disadvantages.

I went for a damage increase and increased reload, but I don't think the increased damage will help, so I say leave the damage alone.

[Gold]

Hmm. I nearly agree with you. i think the spas needs a reload time increase and a damage increase by atleast 2 - 5% and maybe instead of 7 shells make it 5 or 6

[Mr. Domino]

I can't vote because there is no "Spas is fine" option. It does have a lot of things going for it, but that can be said of several weapons. If you really want to weaken the Spas though, I'd think nerfing the quick reload feature would do it, since I see that as its greatest asset. The wide spread makes bink not much of an issue, too, so perhaps something could be done with that as well.

[AaaaaaaahhhHH!!!]

put a spas is fine option.
it's fine, just get above them, the bullets are so slow that they can't even reach you before revisiting earth if you're high enough.

and it's almost impossible to hit you even if you're close to them as long as you're at the high ground.

in my opinion it should be 1 shot kill more realistic, i think every weapon needs a power boost, this will make sure nads aren't too powerful and neither are socoms. you guys kept complain and made all primaries weak so much that secondaries begin to get nerfed....

[Eagles_Arrows]

SPAS has slow but powerful bullets, I see...

I think it's okay for the moment.

[Demonic]

The spas a rape-gun in Skoskav's mod, even though it was keen in 1.3.1.

[Twistkill]

It is just slightly unbalanced, and I think it should have a longer reload time. Keep in mind that this is my opinion, and if anyone starts to argue with me over a gun in a game, you have issues.

[zyxstand]

a better way to balance it better is to not make it lose speed/damage too fast.  It's too ineffective at medium/longer distances.  you should've put that as an option!

[Clawbug]

Im more conserned about with the boost it gives, it gives huge advantage in CTF to boost to enemy base, and escpecially when escaping, when pellets slow enemies down.

Anyway, it is nice weapon, with high damage, but the boost is a bit too high IMO.

[T-Bone]

i think that is actually not to bad as it is now.....most people with it usually dont have problems getting kills, i personally dont have a problem with it right now.

[jbigz]

its fine how it is now i would agree. i dont use it much, i like having more range, but when i do, i think its alright. i voted for more speed, maybe it should only bee very fast at the beginning then the bullets just dive near the end. a 1 hit kill super-close range weapon. thats how it should be. some may say its cheap, but then compare it to the chainsaw...

[Twistkill]

its fine how it is now i would agree. i dont use it much, i like having more range, but when i do, i think its alright. i voted for more speed, maybe it should only bee very fast at the beginning then the bullets just dive near the end. a 1 hit kill super-close range weapon. thats how it should be. some may say its cheap, but then compare it to the chainsaw...

The chainsaw? Do you know how easy it is to avoid it? Granted, areas like the flag spots in Kampf or Run it can be deadly, but otherwise, it's not a very good weapon.

[zyxstand]

it does get really annoying when you're trying to kill someone from distance with a spas - it's hard to aim and very weak...  It should deal some more considerable damage at bigger distances than it does now!

[T-Bone]

i think the damage is good, what it needs is more distance so there isnt such a big arch, if anyhting was to be changed

[jbigz]

The chainsaw? Do you know how easy it is to avoid it? Granted, areas like the flag spots in Kampf or Run it can be deadly, but otherwise, it's not a very good weapon.

I mean someone just running straight thru a crowd of people, just shooting/holding the shoot button down... like in an enclosed tunnel in the bottom of equinox... not best example, but you get the general idea.