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I think it should be locked and the key points put into the/a rules topic to stop some newbie coming in and starting the arguement all over.
Not reading any of these posts, my opinion is that those two guns are very unfair.
i think this thread goes around in circles...
I know how to take on M79ers, so don't think I'm another one of those random majors that whine because he can't put together the brain cells to counter them; I was just explaining how the M79 can be annoying, even to a decent player.
An opinion is never wrong or right. So he can't possibly be stupid for having an opinion.
Soldat has 100x more information than this thread does. He can't be stupid or wrong for using the strongest source of info, and not it's competitor.
Quote from: SDFilm on January 19, 2007, 07:35:08 pmI know how to take on M79ers, so don't think I'm another one of those random majors that whine because he can't put together the brain cells to counter them; I was just explaining how the M79 can be annoying, even to a decent player.Yeah, I am sure we all know how to take on m79ers, but you have to admit that the m79/barret certainly puts you in far more "high risk" situations than any other gun does.
This particular style of gameplay can near infuriate me when the other guns cannot compete with the m79ers and barreters. This happens to be the same feeling with many other m79 and barret haters, but they disguise it by simply saying that the guns are unfair, and cant follow it up with decent evidence. After thinking about it over and over again, in just about every one of my posts, I have put into words what most m79 and barret haters are realising what they hate most about m79s and barrets.
Now I am totally exposed. Seems thats what you guys that keep arguing with me needed to understand, even though I hinted at it over and over again. So I'd just like to congratulate you guys on what a phenomenal job of pissing me off over and over and over again, without realising what I am aiming at. I thought it would be an easy job. The guys over at soldatmods.tk got it. I tried soldatforums to get a larger audience to see. But most of you guys just couldnt get it. Well done.
Quote from: jrgp on September 30, 2010, 03:36:50 pmOnly anime shows I've felt any interest in over the years are Pokemon (original TV series) and various hentai.so clearly jgrp is a goddamn anime connoisseur. his opinion might as well be law here.
Only anime shows I've felt any interest in over the years are Pokemon (original TV series) and various hentai.
Best Admin: jrgp, he's like the forum mom and a pet dog rolled into one.
And you still don't have one decent, valid point explaining why the M79 or Barret needs to be changed.
"the gun may seem to be unfair to the people they kill with it."Seem unfair when is not actually unfair and then the person who got killed comes here to complain. As you have.We do realise what you are trying to say, but it has no grounds for consideration. Your "proof" is messy and can be beaten in a debate. If being proved wrong pisses you off then you need help.So maybe it is fun to be good with all the weapons, it's still just a killing spree by the good shooters. But yes, well done to us for winning the debate.
The guys over at soldatmods.tk got it. I tried soldatforums to get a larger audience to see. But most of you guys just couldnt get it. Well done.
Maybe that's because the people at soldatmods.tk are looking to change the way Soldat is played, and they'll take any suggestion. Meanwhile, over at the Soldat forums, the people who actually play and know what's going on recognize the foolishness of your complaints.
What you're confusing me with is your intentions to win the debate. You guys have me baffled.
Well the M79 does have an insane 'luck' factor to it which can't exactly be balanced
Quote from: Horang on January 15, 2007, 02:19:13 pmWell the M79 does have an insane 'luck' factor to it which can't exactly be balanced it can i figured out (by common sense) that the less time a bullet stay in the air the better are the chances that it hits (huhuh!? ain´t i right?). And the reason that it gets even more lucky is that its a 1 hit 1 kill weapon. so if we speed m79 up it will be less lucky but if we do its easier to hit whit it. ("Balance paradox") Btw:Were is this tread going to ur just figthing.
Quote from: papercut on January 20, 2007, 07:10:46 pm The guys over at soldatmods.tk got it. I tried soldatforums to get a larger audience to see. But most of you guys just couldnt get it. Well done.what are you talking about? did i miss something?
I dont refuse to change my tactics though. I am open to suggestions. Only info Ive been able to get is use long range guns, get the hell away, dodge, and thats it. All of which only increase your chances of surviving about 15%.
You said you can dodge them 15% of the time.
But since so many m79 balance issues have been neglected, then it was really for the people that use them to listen, rather than the guys who can fix it.
To the above posts regarding the Barrett's bink: Its bink is at 90. Okay? 90.... 90. It has the highest bink out of all the weapons in the game. Bink is not 100% guaranteed to stop the shot no matter how much the bink is. It will make the shot miss a lot of the time, yes, but sometimes the hit will go on target out of luck. It will happen out of luck.Also, the cursor gets affected by bink(gets big) about a second, so if a Barrett user stay out of your range or doesn't get hit for about 1 second, they have only one chance to hit you, and because of the already high movementacc, they can still miss even if they have a clear shot.