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Offline zyxstand

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grenade fix
« on: June 15, 2006, 12:18:58 pm »
Remember in the older version when you would fire a grenade and it would hit yourself?  Well Michal fixed that by adding some time before the grenade would be able to collide with any player.  The problem with that is that if the enemy is right in front of you and you want to kill him the grenade won't explode on him because of this fix.  My suggestion is to only make the grenade not collide with the player who threw it!  That way it won't explode on yourself but it can explode point blank on an enemy (though it will cause you some damage).
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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2006, 12:24:23 pm »
I remember that bug.

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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2006, 12:28:11 pm »
so you mean for that short time it wont collide with you or it will never collide with you?

i totally agree though! I was wondering why I couldn't hit people with grenades! grr.

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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2006, 01:11:19 pm »
only for that short time.  instead of makign it so it doens't collide with anyone for those miliseconds, it should be changed so that it doens't collide with the thrower for the same time - with others it can collide.
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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2006, 01:31:30 pm »
I support this
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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2006, 01:33:02 pm »
lol i remember throwing nades so fast the only one dieing was me ^^


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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2006, 02:48:22 pm »
I don't support this. Nades are already strong enough, they need such avoidable weaknesses like what we have.

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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2006, 03:15:05 pm »
I don't support this. Nades are already strong enough, they need such avoidable weaknesses like what we have.

your reason is mainly for balancing...  That's just unrealistic!  Grenades are very well balanced imo - no need to change them - just need to make them more reasonable.
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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2006, 07:49:07 pm »
If you're hitting someone with the thing at that kind of range, then you're gonna die anyway; thus, I don't see anything really wrong here.
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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2006, 05:12:57 am »
no you will just get a little damage


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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2006, 01:00:43 pm »
yes, only some damage - but isn't it better to get a kill for a death?  Afterall, grenades at such short range are usually used when you run out of better options (such as your gun (when you're reloading)) and are desperate to give a last effort to kill your enemy...
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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2006, 03:32:56 pm »
Nice idea, I support it.
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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2006, 04:38:44 pm »
I don't support this. Nades are already strong enough, they need such avoidable weaknesses like what we have.

That's just stupid. It's simply annoying when the grenade doesn't explode on the victim.

A game shouldn't be annoying.

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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2006, 05:12:41 pm »
People find ways to complain about every idea.  ::)
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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2006, 06:48:42 pm »
i find the nade okay, the only annoying thing is... you threw a grenade, forgot where it was and run over it like an idiot BOOM you killed yourself

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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2006, 06:50:09 pm »
i think a more pressing issue is stability with nades, predicting the damage of a grinade is useless, i killed myself with one grinade from full health and the guy who had the direct hit did not die. that is the real issue here, stability
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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2006, 12:10:58 pm »
No, this would make nade spamming a more powerful tactic, because you wouldn't have to avoid the nades yourself.

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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2006, 12:22:26 pm »
No, this would make nade spamming a more powerful tactic, because you wouldn't have to avoid the nades yourself.
You misunderstand, they still explode when they touch you.
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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2006, 12:24:37 pm »
no its about having your nades go through you, so if you throw it directly up, it could fall through you, that wouldnt change anything celatid
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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2006, 01:26:37 pm »
In 1.2.1, grenades always collided with everyone, no matter what. Sometimes they collide with yourself because you would throw it and you'd be going faster than the grenade, and you'd catch up with it. MM fixed this by added a short timer that would prevent the grenade from colliding with ANY player for a split second or two. What zyxstand is proposing is that instead of not colliding with ANY player for a split second or two, the grenade shouldn't collide with the THROWER for a split second or two.
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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2006, 02:10:06 pm »
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i find the nade okay, the only annoying thing is... you threw a grenade, forgot where it was and run over it like an idiot BOOM you killed yourself
no - that just means you're really stupid and deserve to die...

no its about having your nades go through you, so if you throw it directly up, it could fall through you, that wouldnt change anything celatid
uhm, you're not understanding the point - the grenade won't collide with yourself for a fraction of a second - That way, you won't IMMEDIATELY blow up right after throwing it - but if you walk over it or it comes back down and hits you - BOOOM

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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2006, 02:28:05 pm »
i've never noticed any problems with the nades, I say leave 'em alone
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Re: grenade fix
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2006, 05:35:22 pm »
I support this

I wish these ideas got implemented :(