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Offline Camping_carl

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.99999999 infinity = 1?
« on: November 05, 2006, 09:53:59 am »
does .99999999999 infinity = 1
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Re: .99999999 infinity = 1?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2006, 09:54:40 am »
does .99999999999 infinity = 1

Haven't I seen this topic somewhere?

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Re: .99999999 infinity = 1?
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2006, 09:57:01 am »
yes i have started it on the lue but still have not got a intelligent answer.
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Re: .99999999 infinity = 1?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2006, 09:58:09 am »
No. even though it goes on for infinity it never reaches an absolute 1. Unless you round up, but that defeats the whole purpose.

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Re: .99999999 infinity = 1?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2006, 10:00:46 am »
This topic was posted before I sware.

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Re: .99999999 infinity = 1?
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2006, 10:02:31 am »
Probably in the past, does it really matter? If it was posted Carl will get an answer, then it will be locked. If not people will argue here until someone gets tired of argueing.

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Re: .99999999 infinity = 1?
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2006, 10:04:20 am »
Probably in the past, does it really matter?

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Re: .99999999 infinity = 1?
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2006, 10:05:43 am »
SHUTS UP just round to one for gods sake. The reason all of our maths is screwed is because the stupid guy that invented our number system made it like it is today, which causes problems with things like .999 and infinity. If only they had done it properly and thought about it before screwing it all up and making it impossible to calculate certain things >:(

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Re: .99999999 infinity = 1?
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2006, 10:07:47 am »
.99999 infinity approaches 1 but never gets there. I think its awesome. Approaching something but never ever getting there.

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Re: .99999999 infinity = 1?
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2006, 10:07:59 am »
Technically 0.9 recurring + 0.1 recurring = 1
However when doing maths it is acceptable to write 0.9 recurring = 1
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Re: .99999999 infinity = 1?
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2006, 10:10:13 am »
I think its awesome. Approaching something but never ever getting there.

Story of my life :P

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Re: .99999999 infinity = 1?
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2006, 10:32:05 am »
Without rounding up, 0.99~ is equal to one. You see, all integer numbers can be written in two ways, lets take 1 for example:

1.00000~
0.9999~

Em, remember how to turn numbers with infinite periodic decimals into fractions?

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0.444444~ =  4/9
0.323232~ =  32/99

Well, do that with 0.9999~

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0.9999999~ =   9/9 = 1

No need to know and understand the idea of limit, just read the explanation above.
« Last Edit: November 05, 2006, 10:34:05 am by Syd »

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Re: .99999999 infinity = 1?
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2006, 10:35:06 am »
Without rounding up, 0.99~ is equal to one. You see, all integer numbers can be written in two ways, lets take 1 for example:

1.00000~
0.9999~

Em, remember how to turn numbers with infinite periodic decimals into fractions?

Code: [Select]
0.444444~ =  4/9
0.323232~ =  32/99

Well, do that with 0.9999~

Code: [Select]
0.9999999~ =   9/9 = 1

No need to know and understand the idea of limit, just read the explanation above.

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Re: .99999999 infinity = 1?
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2006, 10:46:57 am »
I've seen people try to prove this via math on other forums where the same subject sprung up. I've also seen people successfully prove that 1 = 2. Hint, hint? ;)

It's like trying to get to "tomorrow" without a time-machine.

@Syd's post:
why the heck is 0.44-- = 4/9?! That should be 4/10 ???

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Re: .99999999 infinity = 1?
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2006, 10:55:35 am »
Technically 0.9 recurring + 0.1 recurring = 1
However when doing maths it is acceptable to write 0.9 recurring = 1

That's incorrect. 0.999~ + 0.111~ does not equal 1. However, 0.999~ + 0.00~1 does. The reason that this is such an issue in mathematics is the difference in significance of 0.999~ in graphs and integers. You see, in a graph, 0.999~ would be considered an asymptote; a function approaches either x = 1 or y = 1 but never really gets there. However, when dealing with integers and rational numbers, the method used would be the one that Syd gave above, especially because a rational number is any number that can be written as a fraction of integers, and an integer itself is classified as a rational number. ;D

Edit: In response to Keron's post:

No, 0.4 would equal 4/10. There is a mathematical theorem that states that 0.x~ = x/9 and 0.xyxy~ = xy/99, and so on. The numbers after the decimal that repeat are given as a fraction over a number of 9's corresponding to the number of repeating numbers. For example:

0.42984298~ = 4298/9999
0.6~ = 6/9 = 2/3
« Last Edit: November 05, 2006, 10:58:19 am by Kazuki »

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Re: .99999999 infinity = 1?
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2006, 11:01:16 am »
But it's .99999999999, not 1. So techinically, It's .9999999999, not 1, because you didn't say it was 1.

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Re: .99999999 infinity = 1?
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2006, 11:12:13 am »
<Kazuki> Wow.
<Kazuki> I feel like stapling Dascoo to the ceiling by his balls.
<Kazuki> I think he just posted in that 0.999~ = 1 topic without reading ANY of it.

That's what people have been arguing for the first half of this thread. :X

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Re: .99999999 infinity = 1?
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2006, 11:15:18 am »
Oh yeah, Kazuki I simply made a typo there.
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Re: .99999999 infinity = 1?
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2006, 11:26:39 am »
.99999999-->  will continually get closer to 1, but never reach it.   draw a graph of y=1/x to see a visual example.

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Re: .99999999 infinity = 1?
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2006, 11:36:06 am »
Okay if this was rounding them then just .9 or even .999999999999999999999999999 would be = to 1,but if it was no rounding, then .9 would be closest to one then the more 9's you get the farther you get from a one
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