Author Topic: Switching to Ubuntu (Read 9885 times)

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #20 on:** June 18, 2006, 02:20:23 pm »

Linux is not prone to viruses because it follows a proper layered OS model, such that a normal user doesn't have privileges to do anything that compromises the system.

I'm saying that Windows is at fault because it should not be vulnerable to viruses in the first place. You should not have to run performance-degrading programs in the background to protect you from viruses, spyware and other bad things. You should just be able to use the computer and not worry.

Yes I know you don't need to think/worry about it, and I'm the same way when I use windows. I don't have any antivirus software or anything installed.

The fact remains that it is not the user's fault, they do not have to do anything to get a virus. You said that it is the user's fault, and I'm flat out saying "no, you're wrong."

I go to a college with a generally-intelligent student body. I work at the computing helpdesk and I spend hours every week helping many people remove viruses from their computers, but only the windows users. Mac users and linux users on campus never have any problems at all, because they're made properly.

I don't see how you can blame it on the users. Yes, smarter/more cautious users don't have problems, but you're completely missing my point

xtishereb · « **Reply #21 on:** June 18, 2006, 04:22:28 pm »

I use Ubuntu on my somewhat old laptop. It has its fair share of bugs, similar to when I ran Windows XP on the laptop, but otherwise it's fine. The major probelms I have with it are derrived from the hardware, not the software (execpt in the case of Flash, since Adobe/Marcomedia hasn't released Flash 8 for Linux yet, plus no working Soldat, since the laptop barely runs it without emulation).
When I switched over, the Windows harddrive I had was often inexplicably freezing for long periods of time. It was great being able to do so many things.
It's also really easy for me to customize it without downloading additional programs (like WindowBlinds), many of the programs I use (like Firefox) are also available on it, and the package features (.deb) are great.

Anyway, have fun. It's a great OS.

frogboy · « **Reply #22 on:** June 19, 2006, 01:37:16 am »

Quote from: FliesLikeABrick on June 18, 2006, 02:20:23 pm

Linux is not prone to viruses because it follows a proper layered OS model, such that a normal user doesn't have privileges to do anything that compromises the system.

I'm saying that Windows is at fault because it should not be vulnerable to viruses in the first place. You should not have to run performance-degrading programs in the background to protect you from viruses, spyware and other bad things. You should just be able to use the computer and not worry.

It's both users and the model of Windows. A lot of the time, a person has to run something before they are infected, but after that, the poor design of Windows means the problem is more severe.

Lapis Lazuli · « **Reply #23 on:** June 19, 2006, 04:22:30 am »

Actually, the average Windows XP machine is infected with a virus, trojan or worm, six seconds after connecting to the internet.

Yeah, I'd say its an issue with the OS, not the user.

JBL · « **Reply #24 on:** June 19, 2006, 04:42:31 am »

STOP TALKING ALL UR COMOUTER TALK! Talk NORMALLY! I can't understand!!!!!

Dascoo · « **Reply #25 on:** June 19, 2006, 06:02:24 am »

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Can i play DOD with linux, or Call of duty 2? I have a free Ubuntu cd......

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #26 on:** June 19, 2006, 06:19:24 am »

running windows games on linux is still a gray area. There is a piece of software that will let you run windows games in linux, but it is not entirely free and it may be a bit confusing for someone who is new to linux to set up.

There is nothing keeping you from having windows and linux both installed on the same computer though

bja888 · « **Reply #27 on:** June 19, 2006, 06:59:51 am »

Quote from: xtishereb on June 18, 2006, 04:22:28 pm

(execpt in the case of Flash, since Adobe/Marcomedia hasn't released Flash 8 for Linux yet, plus no working Soldat, since the laptop barely runs it without emulation).

Dont expect it any time soon. They will make flash 9 for linux a few months after it comes out for win and mac. Flash 9 is in beta 3 but a few more months till its finished.

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #28 on:** June 19, 2006, 07:09:47 am »

you're talking about flash... what?

bja888 · « **Reply #29 on:** June 19, 2006, 07:21:31 am »

Quote from: FliesLikeABrick on June 19, 2006, 07:09:47 am

you're talking about flash... what?

Kinda off topic. There is not flash 8 for linux and there is no 64x support of player 7.

Lapis Lazuli · « **Reply #30 on:** June 19, 2006, 08:16:11 am »

I'd still stick with linux.

Linux
Unbelievably fast + effecient, and user friendly,

vs.

Windows
Horrifically slow, bloated, riddled with holes and traps,

I'll stick with the OS that isn't a minefield, thank you.

bja888 · « **Reply #31 on:** June 19, 2006, 08:27:52 am »

Its like a knife. Once you cut your self with a good knife it is taken away and you are give a plastic one.

You can still cut things with a plastic one but now it takes more effort

Lapis Lazuli · « **Reply #32 on:** June 19, 2006, 08:31:08 am »

Right except they took the good knife away because its rusty and inflicts disease.

bja888 · « **Reply #33 on:** June 19, 2006, 08:32:40 am »

Quote from: Lapis Lazuli on June 19, 2006, 08:31:08 am

Right except they took the good knife away because its rusty and inflicts disease.

Not when you first got it.

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #34 on:** June 19, 2006, 08:33:44 am »

yeah, but it only takes two weeks to rust and become disease-infested

Atticus · « **Reply #35 on:** June 19, 2006, 12:51:51 pm »

Okay, so you guys have peer pressured me into being interested in Ubuntu. I was wondering what some of the drawbacks are and how could I go back to my windows if I wanted to. Also, I only have this laptop to use, so I was wondering how to have windows and ubuntu on one computer.

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #36 on:** June 19, 2006, 01:00:57 pm »

you can easily go back to windows if you don't like linux, though you will have to reinstall everything. The only normal way to avoid this is to have them both installed at once.

If I had more free time, I would tell you how to set up a dual boot (having windows and linux on the same computer) but unfortunately I don't. I'd be glad to help you with it once you have it installed, but in the mean time take a look at these tutorials:

This tutorial steps you through exactly how to set up a dual boot, assuming you are on a computer that currently has windows XP (or some other windows with an NTFS file system)

http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p3.htm

This is the file you need to download and burn for that:

http://ubuntu.mirrors.u13.net/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso

The page looks very long, but it is mostly pictures and there is nothing hard about it, especially since that page has very detailed step-by-step directions, far better than what I can write

Atticus · « **Reply #37 on:** June 19, 2006, 01:07:41 pm »

I wan't to do this really bad, but I don't want to mess anything up and I am not very good with computers. I just think that it might be a big risk. I want to be able to play soldat. I also don't know what programs that I enjoy right now will not work with linux.

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #38 on:** June 19, 2006, 01:10:49 pm »

if you dual boot, you get the best of linux and windows, and you don't risk losing any functionality of your laptop.

Also, your signature breaks the rules (file size too big)

Lapis Lazuli · « **Reply #39 on:** June 19, 2006, 02:11:22 pm »

Actually, Ubuntu, last I checked, can resize partitions so you're able to free up some space to install Ubuntu. It then automatically configured my PC for dual boot options and I didn't have to do a thing. When my PC powered on, it gave me a menu featuring a selection between Ubuntu and Windows ME.

Of course your mileage may vary, so to speak.

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Author Topic: Switching to Ubuntu (Read 9885 times)