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Media Player 11 - All about the copyright
« on: November 13, 2006, 11:02:36 am »
You guys might of noticed on any of my desktop screen shots that I made my own windows media player skin. Since its open a lot I made a smaller efficient skin rather then the crap they push on the website and way better than the defaults.
So I decided to look into visualizations because they are all crap too and wanted to make one that reflected the music I am listening too.

So I reinstall the old WMP10 SDK (Software Development Kit) and check the documentation. Only to find an outdated C++ template.
So I upgrade to WMP11 and download that SDK with much higher hopes. Open the documentation and find absolutely nothing about visualizations or skins!!!! Insted there is just as many pages on "Digital Rights Management Features".


I should of expected this. -_-'

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Re: Media Player 11 - All about the copyright
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2006, 11:26:24 am »
Haha.....I'm actually starting to hate microsoft, and I bet within 5 years alot of people will switch to linux.

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Re: Media Player 11 - All about the copyright
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2006, 11:49:06 am »
Haha.....I'm actually starting to hate microsoft, and I bet within 5 years alot of people will switch to linux.

sooner than that

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Re: Media Player 11 - All about the copyright
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2006, 11:55:14 am »
As soon as Adobe supports it then I will make the switch as well.

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Re: Media Player 11 - All about the copyright
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2006, 02:29:06 pm »
As soon as Linux starts supporting exe format, I might change.

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Re: Media Player 11 - All about the copyright
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2006, 03:20:45 pm »
How many games run fine on Wine......I'm asking you flies.

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Re: Media Player 11 - All about the copyright
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2006, 03:57:20 pm »
How many games run fine on Wine......I'm asking you flies.
with some tweaking, most of the popular games run in wine, cedega, or natively far better than they would on the same computer running windows.  some examples:
  • WoW(cedega)
  • CS (cedega)
  • CS:S (cedega)
  • StarCraft/Brood War (wine)
  • Soldat (is getting there, still doesn't run as well as on windows but it will eventually) (runs fine in cedega, slowish in wine)
  • Q3A and TA run natively and really, really super uber faster than on windows
  • most or all of the UT series run natively on linux, awesomely fast
  • the older doom and quake games run natively (I believe)
  • many other games that I've never even heard of or played

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Re: Media Player 11 - All about the copyright
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2006, 04:19:09 pm »
ID Software made a version of the latest doom (and A believe quake as well) for Linux.
There are other worlds than these

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Re: Media Player 11 - All about the copyright
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2006, 04:40:49 pm »
ID Software made a version of the latest doom (and A believe quake as well) for Linux.

Yes, just about any game based on opengl will run natively on linux

edit: and run at least 25% faster than on windows and with far lower system requirements

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Re: Media Player 11 - All about the copyright
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2006, 04:42:26 pm »
What About Day of Defeat and Day of Defeat Source?
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Re: Media Player 11 - All about the copyright
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2006, 04:43:46 pm »
What About Day of Defeat and Day of Defeat Source?

If one source game works in cedega, they all probably do

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Re: Media Player 11 - All about the copyright
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2006, 05:22:00 pm »
How many games run fine on Wine......I'm asking you flies.
with some tweaking, most of the popular games run in wine, cedega, or natively far better than they would on the same computer running windows.  some examples:
  • WoW(cedega)
  • CS (cedega)
  • CS:S (cedega)
  • StarCraft/Brood War (wine)
  • Soldat (is getting there, still doesn't run as well as on windows but it will eventually) (runs fine in cedega, slowish in wine)
  • Q3A and TA run natively and really, really super uber faster than on windows
  • most or all of the UT series run natively on linux, awesomely fast
  • the older doom and quake games run natively (I believe)
  • many other games that I've never even heard of or played

Tweaking?

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Re: Media Player 11 - All about the copyright
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2006, 05:49:50 pm »
How many games run fine on Wine......I'm asking you flies.
with some tweaking, most of the popular games run in wine, cedega, or natively far better than they would on the same computer running windows.  some examples:
  • WoW(cedega)
  • CS (cedega)
  • CS:S (cedega)
  • StarCraft/Brood War (wine)
  • Soldat (is getting there, still doesn't run as well as on windows but it will eventually) (runs fine in cedega, slowish in wine)
  • Q3A and TA run natively and really, really super uber faster than on windows
  • most or all of the UT series run natively on linux, awesomely fast
  • the older doom and quake games run natively (I believe)
  • many other games that I've never even heard of or played

Tweaking?

settings to get it to get the most use out of your video card, setting up your sound hardware.  stuff you only need to do once.  This is mainly for wine and cedega since you're trying to run a windows program on linux.  Games that run natively take a minimal amount of work to get working

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Re: Media Player 11 - All about the copyright
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2006, 07:17:25 pm »
Haha.....I'm actually starting to hate microsoft, and I bet within 5 years alot of people will switch to linux.

sooner than that

2 weeks ago.

It's all about the copyrights baaaby...

Ubuntu's set of (native) games is actually pretty good. :D

EDIT:If OpenGL games work on Linux natively, then Racer will too! :D

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Re: Media Player 11 - All about the copyright
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2006, 02:17:04 am »
Haha.....I'm actually starting to hate microsoft, and I bet within 5 years alot of people will switch to linux.

sooner than that

2 weeks ago.

It's all about the copyrights baaaby...

Ubuntu's set of (native) games is actually pretty good. :D

EDIT:If OpenGL games work on Linux natively, then Racer will too! :D

Of course that runs on linux.... they have a linux version for download on their downloads page

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Re: Media Player 11 - All about the copyright
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2006, 08:35:53 am »
Ubuntu's set of (native) games is actually pretty good. :D
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You're speaking of the default games that come with Ubuntu correct?

If you're talking about commercial games that run natively on Linux (Ubuntu) then give me a list of the games that do if possible.  If not that then if you can find it, a list of games that are OpenGL so that I can know ahead of time.

I play Source games, Soldat, WoW.  With Wine and the other software that has the same purpose I can play those games with Ubuntu.  So I'll soon be switching to Ubuntu permanently.
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Re: Media Player 11 - All about the copyright
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2006, 01:11:05 pm »
Ubuntu's set of (native) games is actually pretty good. :D
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You're speaking of the default games that come with Ubuntu correct?

If you're talking about commercial games that run natively on Linux (Ubuntu) then give me a list of the games that do if possible.  If not that then if you can find it, a list of games that are OpenGL so that I can know ahead of time.

I play Source games, Soldat, WoW.  With Wine and the other software that has the same purpose I can play those games with Ubuntu.  So I'll soon be switching to Ubuntu permanently.

take a look at my posts in here, and use google a bunch to find out what games are opengl and what other ones run in wine

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Re: Media Player 11 - All about the copyright
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2006, 01:22:18 pm »
I had no idea Counterstrike worked on Linux....I guess I'll be switching over....as soon as I can work out how to install stuff....:P
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Re: Media Player 11 - All about the copyright
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2006, 08:37:41 am »
Ubuntu's set of (native) games is actually pretty good. :D
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You're speaking of the default games that come with Ubuntu correct?

If you're talking about commercial games that run natively on Linux (Ubuntu) then give me a list of the games that do if possible. If not that then if you can find it, a list of games that are OpenGL so that I can know ahead of time.

I play Source games, Soldat, WoW. With Wine and the other software that has the same purpose I can play those games with Ubuntu. So I'll soon be switching to Ubuntu permanently.

take a look at my posts in here, and use google a bunch to find out what games are opengl and what other ones run in wine

Well yes but I was just wondering if anyone had a massive compiled list, or knew of a link to a list.  As far as I know, anything I want to do, I can do with Ubuntu.
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Re: Media Player 11 - All about the copyright
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2006, 08:57:40 am »
Ubuntu's set of (native) games is actually pretty good. :D
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You're speaking of the default games that come with Ubuntu correct?

If you're talking about commercial games that run natively on Linux (Ubuntu) then give me a list of the games that do if possible. If not that then if you can find it, a list of games that are OpenGL so that I can know ahead of time.

I play Source games, Soldat, WoW. With Wine and the other software that has the same purpose I can play those games with Ubuntu. So I'll soon be switching to Ubuntu permanently.

take a look at my posts in here, and use google a bunch to find out what games are opengl and what other ones run in wine

Well yes but I was just wondering if anyone had a massive compiled list, or knew of a link to a list.  As far as I know, anything I want to do, I can do with Ubuntu.

wiki?