The balance is fine.

[mar77a]

Not the beta balance, just the current 1.3.1 default. That's my opinion. In the beta balance spas and AUG are overpowered.

[popsofctown]

so this post contributes....what?

[mar77a]

Im just stating my opinion on the weapon balance; it contributes by saying that at least there's one guy wants the balance not to be changed.

[FliesLikeABrick]

I like the balance in the Soldat Forums WM server more than the official balance.

[Cato269]

if the balance was fine then why is this part of the forums here?

[edak]

LOL, because people like to disagree.  It's called freedom of speech.   It's never going to be changed in a way that makes everyone happy.

[Valorman]

AUG are overpowered.

Yes!

[Nfsjunkie91]

As Ru' has said before, it's not the weapons, it's the map.

[-Vis-]

As Ru' has said before, it's not the weapons, it's the map.

It's a combination of both.

[Chakra]

'course it's both, but I think as of right now it's mostly the maps.

Too many maps following the same generic path made by the likes of b2b and laos - large open main route ripe for domination through height superiority and spraying in clan wars, and lower tight nit paths making 1 shot weapons an easier alternative. We all fear the m79 on the middle route of voland, and a minimi thats a screen's height above us laying down a barrage of sweet sweet pain.

As for the balance itself...it is pretty good isn't it. A few tweaks is always nice to keep things new though.

[Morik]

I like the beta balance better than the current balance as well. Toning down the autos is good, due to the fact that although they dont kill as fast as most weapons. They are used mostly to manipulate the enemy into where you want them to go, which give them the advantage of position. As for maps, I think B2b is too unbalanced to be brought back into the next version imo. Bravo team is at a height disadvantage on both top and bottom routes. Death2 and Equinox are also maps that are rarely played because many people dislike them. Ash is not a good map at all, but people love playing there for some reason.

[blackdevil0742]

Just boost the MP5 a lill and i'll be happy.

[Tai]

I like the beta balance better than the current balance as well. Toning down the autos is good, due to the fact that although they dont kill as fast as most weapons. They are used mostly to manipulate the enemy into where you want them to go, which give them the advantage of position. As for maps, I think B2b is too unbalanced to be brought back into the next version imo. Bravo team is at a height disadvantage on both top and bottom routes. Death2 and Equinox are also maps that are rarely played because many people dislike them. Ash is not a good map at all, but people love playing there for some reason.

 Why's Ash a bad map? I mean, it seems to be one of the few maps that are evenly designed. KAMPF is a bad map. OMG, are you kidding me?! How can you possibly like that map? It's so uneven that it's not funny. EJECT IT FROM MY INTERWEB!!!111!!!1!!!1!

[PANZERCATWAGON]

I like the beta balance better than the current balance as well. Toning down the autos is good, due to the fact that although they dont kill as fast as most weapons. They are used mostly to manipulate the enemy into where you want them to go, which give them the advantage of position. As for maps, I think B2b is too unbalanced to be brought back into the next version imo. Bravo team is at a height disadvantage on both top and bottom routes. Death2 and Equinox are also maps that are rarely played because many people dislike them. Ash is not a good map at all, but people love playing there for some reason.

 Why's Ash a bad map? I mean, it seems to be one of the few maps that are evenly designed. KAMPF is a bad map. OMG, are you kidding me?! How can you possibly like that map? It's so uneven that it's not funny. EJECT IT FROM MY INTERWEB!!!111!!!1!!!1!

kampf is a great map, even if I'm losing on that map I still enjoy playing on it. It caters for a lot, if not all, of the weapons in Soldat.

I like the balance in the Soldat Forums WM server more than the official balance.

lol, just, lol.

[{LAW} Gamer_2k4]

KAMPF is a bad map. OMG, are you kidding me?! How can you possibly like that map? It's so uneven that it's not funny. EJECT IT FROM MY INTERWEB!!!111!!!1!!!1!

Uneven and unbalanced are not necessarily the same thing.  Kampf has different sides, sure, but it's still even.  It's easier to move out of blue base, but there's a lot more open area to get shot at in.  Conversely, it's hard to move out of the red base, but once you're out, you have a better chance of escaping than for blue base.

Also, I already made a thread like this, but it was locked.
http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=4318.0

[Fluffy]

I'm with you, Marty. I think the balance is just fine now. Why do they even have to do those stupid +1 and -2 tweaks. They change nothing.

Will this stupid circus ever stop?

[excruciator]

I like the beta balance better than the current balance as well. Toning down the autos is good, due to the fact that although they dont kill as fast as most weapons. They are used mostly to manipulate the enemy into where you want them to go, which give them the advantage of position. As for maps, I think B2b is too unbalanced to be brought back into the next version imo. Bravo team is at a height disadvantage on both top and bottom routes. Death2 and Equinox are also maps that are rarely played because many people dislike them. Ash is not a good map at all, but people love playing there for some reason.

I dont really understand what you are saying, "autos purpuse are to manipulate the enemy??" and tuning them down will only make it worse because right now the ruler of soldat is barrett, which sure, has a lots of weakness but if fall in hand of a good sharpshooter its deadly(In the end pros outnumber the cons). the only way to kill a barettard is to have better aim the them orĀ  to bink them which semis sucks at that 'cause of the fire rate and if you tune down auto the time required to kill a barettard will extend and they will think some other ways to kill you...In the end what im saying is that if you tune down autos you might as well as take those weapon out of the list because no one would be using them( and barrett(ard) will became a dictator of soldat)

[Ziem]

I like the beta balance better than the current balance as well. Toning down the autos is good, due to the fact that although they dont kill as fast as most weapons. They are used mostly to manipulate the enemy into where you want them to go, which give them the advantage of position. As for maps, I think B2b is too unbalanced to be brought back into the next version imo. Bravo team is at a height disadvantage on both top and bottom routes. Death2 and Equinox are also maps that are rarely played because many people dislike them. Ash is not a good map at all, but people love playing there for some reason.

 Why's Ash a bad map? I mean, it seems to be one of the few maps that are evenly designed. KAMPF is a bad map. OMG, are you kidding me?! How can you possibly like that map? It's so uneven that it's not funny. EJECT IT FROM MY INTERWEB!!!111!!!1!!!1!

In my opinion kampf,equi and death2 is ... bit too weird.

[Noz]

Steyr and SPAS are already overpowered, in my opinrion (SPAS more because of its ridiculous pushback than anything). The beta in this forum just makes it worse. A half-second longer reload to the M79 would fix a lot of camping on alt routes too, as the current window to charge someone who has used their M79 shot is too small. Otherwise, the balance is pretty good.

Why's Ash a bad map? I mean, it seems to be one of the few maps that are evenly designed.

Sign of a bad map: you can get into the other team's base faster than your own. It is also entirely too easy to both spawnkill (from base to base, no less) and boost out of the flag area (a good boost can get you all the way back to your base).