Steyr Aug scope

[Sytrus]

No, just no.

The Steyr scope in real life is normally not zoomable, it's just a better crosshairs.

A scope would bame the steyr overpowerd IMHO

[5th_account]

orly? Then why is there a 1.5X scope on it?

[Sytrus]

is there? show me.

[Daimarus]

Steyr should have an additional advantage, because it is the weakest* of machineguns...

Just have a look at this:

Simple calculaiton... Damage * Speed / Fire rate

MP5: 3276
AK: 2465
Minimi: 2580
Steyr: 2711

*- Steyr is the worst  machinegun. Why? Why minimi has smaller numer of "points" but the Steyr is the weakest? Because Minimi has 50 bullets in one magazine and Steyr has 30... and AK has 40... I think that you don't fire it in one "row" so AK is really good weapon (good damage - 4 shots in body or 2 headshots on Real. mode and you are dead)


So, it is the weakest weapon. It should be "promoted". A little scope - 1,25 when crouch, 1,50 when prown, would be good. And maybe 75-78 damage, not 73, because it is too weak anyways...


Daimarus

[5th_account]

Redo the Ak's value

[Sytrus]

No, no additional ups for the steyr. I think the autos are balanced pretty good atm, though i still feel the AK as a bit too weak.

And those 1,25 and 1,50 values are the barret ones...

[Ziem]

Steyr should have an additional advantage, because it is the weakest* of machineguns...

Just have a look at this:

Simple calculaiton... Damage * Speed / Fire rate

MP5: 3276
AK: 2465
Minimi: 2580
Steyr: 2711

*- Steyr is the worst  machinegun. Why? Why minimi has smaller numer of "points" but the Steyr is the weakest? Because Minimi has 50 bullets in one magazine and Steyr has 30... and AK has 40... I think that you don't fire it in one "row" so AK is really good weapon (good damage - 4 shots in body or 2 headshots on Real. mode and you are dead)

So, it is the weakest weapon. It should be "promoted". A little scope - 1,25 when crouch, 1,50 when prown, would be good. And maybe 75-78 damage, not 73, because it is too weak anyways...

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Styer is one of the most powerful auto's...

[-Skykanden-]

Styler aug HAVE a litle scope

[Lord Frunkamunch]

No. The steyr's fine as it is; new isn't always better, people. I agree with whoever said that MM should've just made up some weapons for Soldat to stop the flow of 'realistic' suggestions.

Oh, and all the autos are the 'best' in certain situations. I personally think the steyr's the best all around weapon, because of it's range and fire rate.

[Sytrus]

Amen that brother. The Steyr is fine, so just leave it as it is mmkay?

[ynvaser]

Yeah, good idea.
The aug will be lot better with scope.

[Sytrus]

Yeah, good idea.
The aug will be lot better with scope.

'overpowered' is the word you mean, not 'better'. I already stated why often enough.

[6th_account]

You'd have to be pretty thick to assume that the Steyr would get a scope without anyone paying attention to it's new overall balance amongst the other guns..

* 6th_account looks at sytrus

[ChromedGun]

Well, if Steyr Aug would have scope then the AUG:er would have the advantage over the other Automatics because well, they spot them before. Could be a good weapon to counter snipers, because you spot them earlier than if you used any other weapon (maybe not, because the sniper would see ½ screen further than you do) Nah, I say no scope, it would just mess it up (either it's too little and just plain useless, or it's so much that you can hide somewhere safe and just pump those guys before they even know you're there)

The LAW should not have a scope. LAW is for those who know the map well so they can blow up stationary gun-tards from distance those guys couldn't even dream of. LAW is also a very valuable sidearm in Trenchwars, because you can see someone throwing out a grenade from that bunker, but no other gun could reach.


As a summary, no scope for me thanks.

[#38]

ok, honestly? in real life a minigun bullets also aren't made of marshmellow that it takes 20 shots to kill people.

in real life, a steyr aug also wouldn't start shooting randomly everywhere with no accuracy what so ever after about 10 shots.

and in real life, men don't wear jet boots

so no.

[Magic Odd Effect]

Time for me to say something.

I was pretty good with the Steyr in 1.3.1, it was a good weapon.

Now, the 1.4 balance has kind of made it the ruling auto. Good range, awesome fire rate, and a good clip size.

Yes, I know it's true that the real Steyr AUG has a scope FIXED ONTO IT. It comes factory standard with a 1.5X scope.

This would completely outbalance all the weapons. Next thing you know, the Spas has a scope...and then the MP5 gets a silencer...and the Barret becomes semi-auto, not bolt action....and so on and so forth. This would mess up the weapons.ini to where it'd be nothing like it is now. And now, it's somewhat balanced. SOMEWHAT.

No support.

[SirJamesaford]

No reason to add a scope to this weapon because if used properly this is already the ultimate weapon... To add a scope would be completly unfair to the ak users. (but thats just my opinion)

[F3nyx]

Okay, there's a lot of confusion about the real-life AUG in this thread.
1. The original AUG variant (A1) came with a 1.5x scope.
2. The modern AUG variant (A3) doesn't come with any sights or scope, just a bunch of rails.

Neither of these points has much to do with weapon balance, however.

I agree with Hiro that the autos need a little more a more individual character -- they're pretty boring compared to the other weapons.  A scope would help a lot, as long as it was balanced with a very gentle nerfing of the AUG's other attributes.

I also like the idea of adding a scope variable to weapons.ini.