Steyr Aug scope

[MofoNofo]

Didn't Steyr used to zoom back in 1.05b or something?

Date Posted: 12-01-2007, 21:09:26Like I mean when you crouched it zoomed a little... I forgot >_>

[Emperor]

Didn't Steyr used to zoom back in 1.05b or something?

Date Posted: 12-01-2007, 21:09:26

Not IIRC.

Well before we jump in to the "hey this weapon is really like THIS instead of what it is in the game so we should...." -discussion let's pay it a thought, shall we?

Even if Stey Aug DOES have a scope and it's also included in Soldat,  doesn't making it actually usable add some serious camp-spray value to it? (yes.. believe it or not, this is a bad thing)

And if it goes to this, isn't barret supposed to be able to shoot all the rounds without any cooldown before it has to be reloaded?

[THE TAINTED TAINT]

i like the idea but to apply to AK and i can really get behind this. although i can GUARANTEE there would nerf AK threads a week after the fact. giving me even 1x zoom would be a little overpowered, considering i pride myself on accuracy with a 1x zoom i'd get at least 3-4 good shots before you're in range but at that point you're half dead anyway.

even if you're not allowed to fire in zoom it would still be a great asset. i stand somewhere between the middle half the map and my flag on defense, so it would be a purely scouting tool. the only reason i ever pick up a barret(terribly boring weapon) is to scout ahead rarely do i go on pure offense unless my team sucks then i'm kinda forced into the role.

i never saw spray as a huge problem and i can't honestly see it becoming one if you added scopes to these weapons.

[MofoNofo]

Emperor, don't give me that "abbreviation" shit, tell me what the hell that means.

[-Vis-]

Emperor, don't give me that "abbreviation" ****, tell me what the hell that means.

If I Recall Correctly.

[MofoNofo]

Thanks


I thought it had like a really small zoom? I'll go check it out

[Hiro]

Scope would not help spray. If I can't see you through the scope then it is spray, but its the same as spraying without a scope (unless you dont know the map o_O).
Now thats out of the way: You want the AK to have scope instead? Its already the accurate and poweful one, that would be cheap. The styer is not accurate unless you fire in 3 bullet bursts, which are weak anyway because of the styer's low damage value. By that time you do that twice the enemy is on you anyway and you have to manuver to dodge the bullets (that is, if you are good enough to dodge. Some noobs probably can't).
And don't say "Put it on the HK", because that is the fastest gun there, it has its place and the styer needs one too.

Admitably, I wouldn't cry if this wasn't put in. But the arguements popping up against it are kinda out of it.

[MofoNofo]

The styer is not accurate unless you fire in 3 bullet bursts

4 bullets.
Self-bink doesn't occur on all auto's until after the 4th bullet.. But Steyr has that annoying bullet that's always too low...

[Hiro]

The point remains.

[MofoNofo]

You're actually safe with a 6 bullet burst for any auto weapon.

Except minigun.

[Hiro]

See above post.

Also notice that the basic aim for the autos is not as straight as a barrett or ruger even before self bink becomes a problem. At 6 shots most of them would miss anyway. If the idea of firing slower was also put in then getting 6 shots out is all you are gonna be able to do before they get to you and you have to quickly de-scope and get up to fire-fight them.

[Protoman]

I could see a scope on the FN Minimi.
I could also see a scope on the Steyr, too.

Scopes are fun, and shouldn't be reserved to the Barret im my opinion.

[AThousandDeaths]

Scope? Ok, less damage, longer reload, slower bullet speed - in any combination. Happy?

Rember, this is about weapon balance, not a wishlist for your fav gun. And with a scope and the nerf on other parametres, I don't think you'd be that happy, would you now? Because you wouldn't be able to use the scope as just this fancy thing you can use to get more edge. No, with scope added and rest nerfed (you didn't think you'd get the scope and not have anything taken from AUG, did you now?), you would have to use the scope allatime to be on relative parity with other guns. And that would pin you down very much, making it a bad thing to use while on assault.

Now, obviously that's a very dark scenario I'm sketching there, but don't worry - the prospects of a scope are, to say the least, bleak.

[Predator0520]

I hope styers stays as it is... ist all in balance.

[popsofctown]

Scope? Ok, less damage, longer reload, slower bullet speed - in any combination. Happy?

Rember, this is about weapon balance, not a wishlist for your fav gun. And with a scope and the nerf on other parametres, I don't think you'd be that happy, would you now? Because you wouldn't be able to use the scope as just this fancy thing you can use to get more edge. No, with scope added and rest nerfed (you didn't think you'd get the scope and not have anything taken from AUG, did you now?), you would have to use the scope allatime to be on relative parity with other guns. And that would pin you down very much, making it a bad thing to use while on assault.

Now, obviously that's a very dark scenario I'm sketching there, but don't worry - the prospects of a scope are, to say the least, bleak.

100% agreed.  well, except the part where he insinuates that it is inherently bad to have a gun that can only scope and not assault.  i think if that was applied to the FN Minime or another gun, it could work out.

[ugapa]

might as well give a barret zoom that goes out 2 screens wide then rather then its half screen

[M.rSnow]

Steryl ain't really balanced because if you meet a FN minimi that's more meant for long range combat (i suppose because its bullet speed is pretty fast) its really hard to kill it if the player is (precisely or close enough) as good as you. Because its bullet damage is to low. i am really annoyed that steryl is so weak it have great precision but it can only kill if you hit very much. Either i think that, a scope or damage is added. I'm hoping on a scope because if it adds damage it is too similar to the other weapons.

[Sytrus]

If you wanna have same attitudes on every gun, then you could aswell take 9 guns out and be left with the minimi as the only weapon left in the game.

[M.rSnow]

If you wanna have same attitudes on every gun, then you could aswell take 9 guns out and be left with the minimi as the only weapon left in the game.

Yup so i won´t have that.

[-Skykanden-]

im agree need an litle scope but not alot