m79 noobish weapon?

[M.rSnow]

Isn't the real problem here is the fact that M79's (and Barrets) are used *TOO DAMN MUCH*

No, because if you know what you're doing, they're easy to avoid.  When I see a team of M79ers, I think "free kills!"  Same with the Barret.  Just whip out the MP5 and you're set.

yeah i believe that too. Well I'm pretty damn sure you playing whit noobs too!

Isn't the real problem here is the fact that M79's (and Barrets) are used *TOO DAMN MUCH*

I agree on that one..

[{LAW} Gamer_2k4]

Isn't the real problem here is the fact that M79's (and Barrets) are used *TOO DAMN MUCH*

No, because if you know what you're doing, they're easy to avoid.  When I see a team of M79ers, I think "free kills!"  Same with the Barret.  Just whip out the MP5 and you're set.

yeah i believe that too. Well I'm pretty damn sure you playing whit noobs too!

Well, go ahead and believe that.  But sometime you should take out a Barret and see just how easy it is to aim when someone is pumping M79 rounds down your throat.  Also, it's VERY rare that I've seen someone use the M79 who isn't a noob.

[Icarius]

The balance is fine. Nothing is wrong. Even the Barret is fine now. It's less of a railgun, espically since it has the delay thing, pretty predictable if you ask me. Everyone should just go home.

[Tai]

I think it would probably there arn´t so many complains of the m79 after all..
Well i am evaluating my skills realistically. So don't think my judgment is wrong. I have full reasons to have that opinion out of my position. Seems that were getting no were by saying this but wen i use m79 (rarely) i get kicked for hacking if i don't miss one shot by intention. I think that proves that the m79 is overpowerd because its hard to miss whit, really. Not literally.
(Seems like you arent that type who believes in stories like these)

 Didn't I tell you about how some people were trying to vote-kick me out of the server when I was owning them with Deagles, especially when they were using M79? So, couldn't I say the Deagles are overpowered too?
 
 Seriously, if you haven't faced Gamer 2K4, let ME face you with whatever weapon I want, while you use M79. I'd like to think I'm a good player too, since some people get pissed at how quickly I can shoot them down if they're not careful.

[John Brooks]

M79 isn't noobish. It requires some skill to use.

[iDante]

M79 isn't noobish. It requires some skill to use.

The reason these whiners hate it is because all you need to do is click and your enemy is dead... I say, get off of maps like arena2 and onto maps like shau and see how much the m79 sux.

[ultraman]

I concur, Icarius.
Stop whining about the M79, it isn't noobish, the balance is fine, pack up your shit and go home.

[Tai]

Seriously, I was owning with my Deagles! XD People who were using M79 quickly had to adjust weapons. What's this about the weapon being so overpowered yet people feel the need to use something else once I'm owning them?

 Again, the M79 isn't as powerful as you think.

[iDante]

Seriously, I was owning with my Deagles! XD People who were using M79 quickly had to adjust weapons. What's this about the weapon being so overpowered yet people feel the need to use something else once I'm owning them?

 Again, the M79 isn't as powerful as you think.

If ur better than someone it doesnt matter what weapon they use.

[{LAW} Gamer_2k4]

Seriously, I was owning with my Deagles! XD People who were using M79 quickly had to adjust weapons. What's this about the weapon being so overpowered yet people feel the need to use something else once I'm owning them?

 Again, the M79 isn't as powerful as you think.

If ur better than someone it doesnt matter what weapon they use.

That doesn't seem to be the consensus among M79 haters though.  They claim almost everyone who uses the M79 is a noob, but the M79ers still manage to defeat them.  Do you really think this debate would have even started if people assumed that all M79ers were simply better than them?

[iDante]

That doesn't seem to be the consensus among M79 haters though.  They claim almost everyone who uses the M79 is a noob, but the M79ers still manage to defeat them.  Do you really think this debate would have even started if people assumed that all M79ers were simply better than them?

My point.

[Icarius]

The reason these whiners hate it is because all you need to do is click and your enemy is dead... I say, get off of maps like arena2 and onto maps like shau and see how much the m79 sux.

The m79 is no differant from the Barret or the Law then. Sure there is a delay when firing, but those things shoot for miles, the m79 can only be shot around a screen length in total. As I said before, the Barret feels like it's been fixed now, the delay adds some skill to the weapon. Before, it was simply a railgun which could be utilized to kill people from ridiculous distances because of the scope and that really made it a pain to play along with. The m79 is visible, you can see where a person is going to fire and it's also useful for other things ASIDE from killing people.

I personally use the m79 for capping fast and getting launched off things unsuspectably, that's how i've always liked to play with it. If you was to remove it from the game, it would simply be a sprayerfest, if you downgrade the weapon, i'd get hurt less from shooting myself from walls.

[-Skykanden-]

isnt a n00bish weapon but using that only is booring i think m79 is and good wep u can kill wher the m79 is recharging

[M.rSnow]

Didn't I tell you about how some people were trying to vote-kick me out of the server when I was owning them with Deagles, especially when they were using M79? So, couldn't I say the Deagles are overpowered too?
 
 Seriously, if you haven't faced Gamer 2K4, let ME face you with whatever weapon I want, while you use M79. I'd like to think I'm a good player too, since some people get pissed at how quickly I can shoot them down if they're not careful.

Well im not good in normal but wen i play its m79, m79, m79 and m79 that's really lame and  in that mode its overpowerd i think i played Leos server once and there was a delay on the m79 it worked out really good. i remember a old tread way back wen there were suggestions for 1.3.1. it was suggested that both the sniper and the m79 should have delay i think it was 3 options in the poll

• Delay m79 
• Delay Barret [Barret]
• Delay both

I think that Both bot the most votes so why did only the Barret [Barret] get delay (assuming I'm right on the vote stats..)

M79 isn't noobish. It requires some skill to use.

"Skill"... I don't want to be mean but i being that anyway..

Date Posted: February 28, 2007, 05:44:14 PM

That doesn't seem to be the consensus among M79 haters though.  They claim almost everyone who uses the M79 is a noob, but the M79ers still manage to defeat them.  Do you really think this debate would have even started if people assumed that all M79ers were simply better than them?

Well i don't claim everyone for being a "noob" only the ones who uses spawn killing and are playing in unfair teams (using m79).
But really now i don't care if they use m79  or not cuz i only play realistic (guezz why?).

[toychest]

dude, the m9 is a noob weapon. full stop.

[iDante]

Well im not good in normal but wen i play its m79, m79, m79 and m79 that's really lame and  in that mode its overpowerd

Play u13 servers for normal. Not very many m79s on inf and tm. its fun.

[Duke]

Since i switch between the Aug and the m79 depending on what map we are playing... say if its a small CTF match then i m more likely to use the m79 for its stopping power when i am running back with the flag. but say its a large ctf map or a DM then iam more likely to use the aug. So no i dont think its a n00bish weapon, you just have to pick the right tiem and place to use it thats all.

[Lord Frunkamunch]

dude, the m9 is a noob weapon. full stop.

Well, normally I would ask for an explanation, or ignore you for clearly having no idea what you're talking about, but as it's you, there's clearly a reason for ending the argument in a single post containing the most annoyingly stereotypical statement possible. The master has spoken, by all means lock the topic.

...

[/sarcasm]

[Baphomet]

Didn't I tell you about how some people were trying to vote-kick me out of the server when I was owning them with Deagles, especially when they were using M79? So, couldn't I say the Deagles are overpowered too?
 
 Seriously, if you haven't faced Gamer 2K4, let ME face you with whatever weapon I want, while you use M79. I'd like to think I'm a good player too, since some people get pissed at how quickly I can shoot them down if they're not careful.

Well im not good in normal but wen i play its m79, m79, m79 and m79 that's really lame and  in that mode its overpowerd i think i played Leos server once and there was a delay on the m79 it worked out really good. i remember a old tread way back wen there were suggestions for 1.3.1. it was suggested that both the sniper and the m79 should have delay i think it was 3 options in the poll

• Delay m79 
• Delay Barret [Barret]
• Delay both

I think that Both bot the most votes so why did only the Barret [Barret] get delay (assuming I'm right on the vote stats..)

M79 isn't noobish. It requires some skill to use.

"Skill"... I don't want to be mean but i being that anyway..

Date Posted: February 28, 2007, 05:44:14 PM

That doesn't seem to be the consensus among M79 haters though.  They claim almost everyone who uses the M79 is a noob, but the M79ers still manage to defeat them.  Do you really think this debate would have even started if people assumed that all M79ers were simply better than them?

Well i don't claim everyone for being a "noob" only the ones who uses spawn killing and are playing in unfair teams (using m79).
But really now i don't care if they use m79  or not cuz i only play realistic (guezz why?).

I seriously find it funny how some people still think that by adding a delay time from the moment you press the button and the weapon shoots is gonna make a weapon require more skill.
Honestly it will only add an annoying factor to the weapon's behavior as someone made Michal do to the Barret. The accuracy is basically the same as it was before, the damage it deals is still the same also.

What you people complain about is the over-usage of certain weapons and when the so-called noobs actually kill you more than once and even make you drop down in the scores screen you begin crying out loud, it's pathetic.

First lets take a look at the Barret: when it still was a decent weapon with a hard ass accuracy and therefore making people to take a lot more time getting used to it there was nothing wrong.. but then someone came up with the idea of that same weapon becoming more "user-friendly", making it far more easy to adapt to by changing it into a point and click, one-shot kill (as it always was) death- bringer instrument. But then it was too powerful because any newcomer would pick it up by the weapons menu and end up in first place rather usually. So some people decided to cry a bit more and Michal added a delay time (through someone else's idea I believe) which shut you guys up and why? Because no newcomer would use that weapon frequently (unless he/she really likes it), it's ANNOYING, or even most "old-school" snipers back there won't even stand that silly change (in my opinion). And again in my opinion people should never had asked for a better accuracy, it was fine the way it was and it required skill, end of story.

Now back to the M79, why would it have a similar annoying factor? Is it because it's an one-shot-kill weapon? Or is it simply because it's a weapon that most of you M79 haters cant handle? Or even bother to.. And get killed by it so often that you get frustrated to the point of making threads in order to share your dislike for such a weapon and for it's users.

Weapons don't kill by themselves, neither do they miss, they are what they're wielders make them. Most newcomers will only kill you with it by getting close enough and normally shooting it straight ahead, then you will lie down dead spread into little pieces, that's what pisses you off.
Newcomers won't work well with the M79's grenade firing method, it's tricky, you almost have to predict the target's next move at all times and you also have to deal with the most annoying bugs in Soldat. And most of them will just run towards you in a suicidal way and blast both target and user.. Although it is a fact that ANYONE will do well with a machine gun, why? Because most MG's wont require that so-called accuracy some people talk about as if they were an example to anyone,  but instead it requires the user to keep the "spam" in one place for a longer time.

Barret requires accuracy;
Ruger requires accuracy;
Desert Eagles requires accuracy;
SOCCOM requires accuracy;

M79 requires something a little more complicated, and in mid-air movement prediction isn't that easy to get used to.

Now instead of crying and suggesting for whatever changes you might think that fits, try and find a way to deal and surpass it using your own talent. And if you can't well that's too bad because whining wont change the fact that newcomers like it.

[Sytrus]

it was fine the way it was and it required skill, end of story.

And it still does, so stop whining about the Barret because you cannot handle it. You ruined your whole very good statement with tat part IMO