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Offline Geomancer

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Map Vote : Airpirates is not a CTF map!
« on: December 11, 2008, 05:15:23 pm »
I find it annoying that when trying to change maps, it defaults to Airpirates, and you have to go through about half the maps with the left/right arrows to get to any ctf_ maps, let alone the one you want. That these maps are even available when selecting a map is kind of annoying.

Also: why, when selecting a user/map in the vote dialog, does it not accept input for a bit when you die?

Just my $0.02

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Re: Map Vote : Airpirates is not a CTF map!
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2008, 05:52:28 pm »
It is a generally accepted fact the map vote needs to be overhauled. Most people say a search function or puttiong more than one map on the screen at a time when scrolling. I myself have over 300 maps (not a ton, but quite a few) and it takes way to long to get to a certain map, especially if the map is not found and you have to wati 2 minutes after cycling through 150 maps. I do sorta like the idea of only showing maps from the game mode you are in.
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Re: Map Vote : Airpirates is not a CTF map!
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2008, 09:16:26 pm »
use the command:

/votemap <insert map name here>

Reasons it may seem to not work:
It doesn't tell you that your 2:00 minutes aren't up, doesn't mean the command is faulty.
The map you requested is not on the server. (not sure if it tells you or not).

Examples:

/votemap Ctf_Ash
/votemap Factory
/votemap Inf_Industrial

I don't think case matters, any way, the point is that there are better ways to use votemap, the [ESC] votemap is pretty much just a s**tty front end.

Oh yeah, it would be good to have a better way to vote maps. Scroll list anyone?
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Re: Map Vote : Airpirates is not a CTF map!
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2008, 10:07:56 pm »
Game mode map votes should be restricted to maps of that type. Having a list of over 100 maps and having to scroll through each and every one is fucking annoying.

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Re: Map Vote : Airpirates is not a CTF map!
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2008, 11:37:29 pm »
IMO /votemap should always be the 'proper' option, but the GUI front end does need a functional facelift.

It just needs a bigger list to scroll as people have suggested. Also, on the topic of mode restriced maps, I think this should be an option.

As a client side control : withing the votemap GUI, a checkbox to show/hide mode maps. Viewing non-mode map will only work if the server hasnt restricted them. If thes erver has restricted them, this checkbox wont show.

As a server side control : option for mode restricted set to true, players can only scroll/vote through maps of that mode. This option will always override the client option. If this is set to false, then the player has the discretion.
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Re: Map Vote : Airpirates is not a CTF map!
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2008, 02:30:36 am »
Yeah, scroll-able list (just like the one in "start game" menu) would be fine.

Also, on the topic of mode restriced maps, I think this should be an option.

As a client side control : withing the votemap GUI, a checkbox to show/hide mode maps. Viewing non-mode map will only work if the server hasnt restricted them. If thes erver has restricted them, this checkbox wont show.

As a server side control : option for mode restricted set to true, players can only scroll/vote through maps of that mode. This option will always override the client option. If this is set to false, then the player has the discretion.

I agree. Playing ctf on inf map and vice versa should be possible sometimes.

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Re: Map Vote : Airpirates is not a CTF map!
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2008, 02:42:08 am »
I don't think case matters, any way, the point is that there are better ways to use votemap, the [ESC] votemap is pretty much just a s**tty front end.
I think it would depend on the operating system of the server. If it's Linux, as it has a case sensitive filesystem, then you need to use corret capitalisation.
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Re: Map Vote : Airpirates is not a CTF map!
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2008, 08:50:16 am »
I find it annoying that when trying to change maps, it defaults to Airpirates, and you have to go through about half the maps with the left/right arrows to get to any ctf_ maps, let alone the one you want. That these maps are even available when selecting a map is kind of annoying.

Also: why, when selecting a user/map in the vote dialog, does it not accept input for a bit when you die?

Just my $0.02
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Re: Map Vote : Airpirates is not a CTF map!
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2008, 10:49:52 am »
I demand an in game Map Search!
I DEMAND IT!

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Re: Map Vote : Airpirates is not a CTF map!
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2008, 11:17:43 am »
This used to not be the case.  When you wanted to vote for a map, you could only vote for a map that supported that current gamemode.  This was changed in 1.2.1. for whatever reason.

The change really isn't needed since a command exists and both voting methods have the same restrictions.

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Re: Map Vote : Airpirates is not a CTF map!
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2008, 06:54:47 am »
I think that this would be a good feature to include. f12

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Re: Map Vote : Airpirates is not a CTF map!
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2008, 07:44:40 am »
This used to not be the case.  When you wanted to vote for a map, you could only vote for a map that supported that current gamemode.  This was changed in 1.2.1. for whatever reason.

There are some games whereby a game mode would use another game mode's map. For example, in a CTF hide and seek game, you'd want to get EVERY default map that can be used in Soldat possible for the game.

I still prefer a search function like the one you have in your web browser (ctrl + f), that's still the best way to go.

The command function has a restriction - You must know EXACTLY what you want. But the search function does help you solve that problem.

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Re: Map Vote : Airpirates is not a CTF map!
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2008, 08:52:36 am »
You should already know what map you want when you're going to make a vote.

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Re: Map Vote : Airpirates is not a CTF map!
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2008, 10:04:34 am »
Not always. Sometimes when I make a map vote, it's not 'cause I wanna play some specific map, but rather that I don't want to play the current one.
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Re: Map Vote : Airpirates is not a CTF map!
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2008, 07:39:53 am »
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I don't think case matters,

Well, it does in linux server so u have to do /votemap ctf_Ash for example to set ash :)

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Re: Map Vote : Airpirates is not a CTF map!
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2009, 12:07:45 pm »
You should already know what map you want when you're going to make a vote.

The command function has a restriction - You must know EXACTLY what you want.

Yeah. Sometimes you don't remember exact name, only first letter. Or you remember incorrectly.