Weapon menu disabling

[DarkCrusade]

You made me realise somehing though, when you join a game and get the weapons menu, you need to be forced to pick a gun for the first time.

Fucking pacifists these days

[homerofgods]

You made me realise somehing though, when you join a game and get the weapons menu, you need to be forced to pick a gun for the first time.

f**king pacifists these days

Hehe, sometimes I like to keep secondary empty so I can pick up a second primary weapon instead. I would probbably do that in a server where only 1 secondary and 1 primary was avalable. Or use an auto-selector, I'm sure someone has made one.

[Polifen]

As far as i remember there is possibility to select secondary weapon in player's menu so it could pick it automatically and if it's not availabe just don't select any weapon. If player would want an secondary weapon he could just use tab to select weapon.

[DorkeyDear]

Some sort of auto choice would make it easier to use. I don't feel like thinking right now on exact behavior, you guys can continue discussing that ^_^

Being able to deselect weapons from the menu, or a new option for fists (for both primary and secondary) would resolve any issue in regards to not wanting a weapon (as apposed to the option of dropping the gun right away).

And while we're at it, disabling all weapons via scripting keeps the menu I hope this is fixed (although I never tested it with the beta, and can't atm).

[Shoozza]

Ok.
You want to have this fixed so my current suggestion is: press ctrl+alt+shift+p 3 times and then make a backflip to disable the menu for the next time.
Enabling is not possible unless you are regged.

If you have a better solution please say it.

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Just kidding.
But I really need to know the behavior you think it should have.

Also notice that there are issues:
Weaponsmenu needs to be hidden or else you can take another weapon while you are alive.
Weaponsmenu autoselect may be annoying aswell (you take the default weapons by mistake)
Weaponsmenu issues with alt+tab
Currently it's not possible to have no weapons unless primaries ans/or secondaries are disabled.
Advanced mode issues (your weapon is not available anymore)

[Polifen]

I don't get the problem - tab to turn it on/off on respawn ( if you press tab while alive it will appear after you respawn, there must be already such variable now ),

And autoselect was meand as if there is only one weapon to choose - for example Dodgeball with only knife or some only snipe servers menu shouldn't appear for the first time you spawn but there should still be possible to turn it on with tab.

Another possibility would be to use the default secondary ( and preferably add primary ) to highlight the weapon ( let's say autochoose it ), but still show weaponmenu. What would it give? If you always play barrett + knife you would just click tab once after joining game wthiout clicking barrett and knife. That shouldn't be hard to implement, just set choosen weap to primary and secondary from player options.

[Shoozza]

I'm not sure if I have the time to add this but before I forget I'll add a

Note:
Toggle visibility of weaponsmenu for next respawn: Tab (actually weaponsmenu key)
Add text which indicates change for next respawn (make sure it gets translated).

when only one primary weapon is available -> select it
when only one secondary weapon is available -> select it
when there are more then one secondary weapon and your fav is there -> select it

When there is nothing to choose -> hide weaponsmenu (autoselect chooses weapons for you)

[homerofgods]

Note:
Toggle visibility of weaponsmenu for next respawn: Tab (actually weaponsmenu key)
Add text which indicates change for next respawn (make sure it gets translated).

NO. I wouldn't want to spend time trying to figure out if my weapon menu is ON or OFF.

The only thing you need to fix is that you can't use 'tab' after you have respawned.

If you want to spend more time on it I wouldn't mind if you added:
-when only one primary weapon is available -> select it
-when only one secondary weapon is available -> select it
-when there are more then one secondary weapon and your fav is there -> select it
-when there is nothing to choose -> hide weaponsmenu (autoselect chooses weapons for you)

[L[0ne]R]

I gave it some thought (it was harder than I expected...), and managed to break it down into this:


A weapon menu can be in one of these 3 states:
state: ON
- Show weapon menu after each time player dies.
- Show weapon menu when you're already dead, but the menu was in OFF or HIDDEN state.

state: HIDDEN
- Show weapon menu after each time player dies.
- Hide weapon menu this one time, but still show it on next death.

state: OFF
- NEVER show it during the game, unless player toggles it to ON, or leaves and rejoins the server.


How these states can be activated:
~ Pressing a designated button: toggle menu between ON/OFF states. (pressing the button while menu is HIDDEN will switch it to ON state)
~ Clicking outside of weapon menu while it's ON: set the menu to HIDDEN state.



Possible extra features:
~ Player should not respawn until he has picked a weapon.
~ An option to choose default state for weapon menu when joining a server (either ON or OFF (regardless of the choice, the menu will still be shown at least once, when player first joins a server)).

[Bistoufly]

I gave it some thought (it was harder than I expected...), and managed to break it down into this:


A weapon menu can be in one of these 3 states:
state: ON
- Show weapon menu after each time player dies.
- Show weapon menu if it's in OFF or HIDDEN state.

state: HIDDEN
- Show weapon menu after each time player dies.
- Hide weapon menu this one time, but still show it on next death.

state: OFF
- NEVER show it during the game, unless player toggles it to ON, or leaves and rejoins the server.


How these states can be activated:
~ Pressing a designated button: toggle menu between ON/OFF states.
~ Clicking outside of weapon menu while it's ON: set the menu to HIDDEN state.



Possible extra features:
~ Player should not respawn until he has picked a weapon.
~ An option to choose default state for weapon menu when joining a server (either ON or OFF (regardless of the choice, the menu will still be shown at least once, when player first joins a server)).

I like it.
It would totally work for me.

[Monsteri]

Hmm, isn't it already like that that if you click somewhere else than the weaponmenu, (if you have choosed weapons) it disappears until next death?

But anyways, only thing what should be done to the weapon menu, is that players should be able to activate during life, and choose the next weapons.

[L[0ne]R]

It already is like that. The reason I mentioned it because I wanted to describe EVERYTHING about how improved weapon menu should work, not just the new things.

[homerofgods]

You are over complicating things. The only problem here is with Activating / Disabling weapons menu wich can only be done with 'tab' when you are dead.
My suggestion is simply to allow Disabling / Activating after you have respawned, because of the short respawn time you sometimes have.

Clicking anywhere outside the menu will auto-chose if it's not the first time, but it will not disable the weapon menu, and it shouldn't either.

[Shoozza]

Ok Fixed.

How it works:
When you join a game soldat will select weapons if there is no other choice (e.g. only 1 primary or 1 secondary weapon available)
You can hide the weaponsmenu when you hit tab and you have chosen your weapons.
You can toggle the if the weaponsmenu will be shown on next respawn when you are alive and press tab.