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Brock's Full Soldat Mod_3.0 [[UPDATED]]
« on: July 11, 2007, 10:00:01 pm »
I have finally finished this after about 1 year's worth of on and off work.



I really appreciate constructive criticism on this.  I'm hoping I will go through about 3-5 versions until it reaches total perfection! 

Enjoy    :D

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« Last Edit: August 21, 2007, 12:58:23 am by Brock »
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Re: Brock's Full Soldat Mod_1.0
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2007, 10:07:40 pm »
Nice Mod

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Re: Brock's Full Soldat Mod_1.0
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2007, 10:32:49 pm »
Looks very nice, except just a bit too cartoonish looking for me.  But you did a great job on the weapons, They all look very smooth.

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Re: Brock's Full Soldat Mod_1.0
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2007, 02:26:37 am »
Brock i like a lot you weapon replaces, and thats awesome :D

i like a lot RSAF L85A1, why you dont put it?

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Re: Brock's Full Soldat Mod_1.0
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2007, 03:22:08 am »
Thanks, and the reason the L85 isn't there is because this is for the original weapons only.  The L85 is not part of the default Soldat arsenal.
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Re: Brock's Full Soldat Mod_1.0
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2007, 03:47:22 am »
ok man, this looks average!

-the first thing i've noticed is ak's color, way too colorful clip, holder, same problem with ruger

-i don't like how you've shaped weapons, m79 is best example, left side of the stock is way too up, it doesn't remind me on the same weapon. I doubt combat knife has a holder like that and SPAS also needs more work to put in

-then shading, nicely done, but eagles look so flat at white metal part, steyr's clip should be darker (like at m82) and minigun's barrels lighter on the left side

Hope this will be of help while making next version!

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Re: Brock's Full Soldat Mod_1.0
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2007, 04:33:36 am »
reminds me of Mancers mod, so i like!

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Re: Brock's Full Soldat Mod_1.0
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2007, 06:52:44 am »
The contrast in you ruger is too low. Darken your Deagles silver part a touch. Darken you AKs clip and put more detail into its body (like that place where the empty shells get projected from). M79 looks outa proportion (maybe a pixel larger? Correct me if i'm wrong). Why does the mp5 have a yellow dot? I though writing in that gun is red. Everything else looks pretty nice =] Just a bit cartoonish for my liking.
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Re: Brock's Full Soldat Mod_1.0
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2007, 07:40:38 am »
Looks kinda old skool stylish to me :) but its pretty nice.

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Re: Brock's Full Soldat Mod_1.0
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2007, 07:49:27 am »
reminds me of Mancers mod, so i like!

Agreed ...


But...some guns looks like they are remade originals. Not bad at all. I likey...but I guess this work isn't worth 1 year of work...

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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2007, 07:54:05 am »
only thing i dislike is the minimi beiing a small toy gun...needs to be larger.
and some guns could be a bit darker, but that's just how some people like it. some want them bright, some dark..

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Re: Brock's Full Soldat Mod_1.0
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2007, 07:58:47 am »
only thing i dislike is the minimi beiing a small toy gun...needs to be larger.
and some guns could be a bit darker, but that's just how some people like it. some want them bright, some dark..

Maybe it's because some guns looks like "dark" ....

Yes the minime should be bigger ...and the Minigun has got weird shading...just plain and simple which doesn't really looks too realistic.

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Re: Brock's Full Soldat Mod_1.0
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2007, 12:24:11 pm »
I'm disappointed in the lack of weapons-gfx, but not a bad job with what's there.


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Re: Brock's Full Soldat Mod_1.0
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2007, 01:57:10 pm »
ok...

Well.  I don't quite get what is so "cartoonish" about these.  You guys don't really explain what is cartoony about them, so therefore I can't change that

I will vouch to make the minimi a few pixels longer.

I will add a bit more shading on to each of the guns where possible

And for those of you complaining about the AK being too bright, heres a news flash:



Not all AKs are the same colour.  It depends on the wood they were made with.

I think the Ruger could use a bit of darkening now that I look at it.

And other than that, I seem to be getting the general drift that I could use some more shading? 

Also.  I'm not trying to make an exact recreation of the originals here.  A lot of you seem to think that.  I'm trying to make something different.  Which is why my AK is brighter, and it is why my FN has a box ammo on it, which is why the deagles look different.
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Re: Brock's Full Soldat Mod_1.0
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2007, 02:47:48 pm »
Some of the guns are quite flat -- they're "shaded" as if they were all pieces of flat paper and don't have any definition at all. Dairy's guns are excellent in the fact that not only do they have shading, but the shading is properly done, so square guns look square, and round guns look round. For example, the Barrett's much too flat and it appears as though the clip is integral to the main barrel assembly. Not bad overall, but I think I've seen you do better work than this (and also you'll still have stiff competition from Soldat Enhanced).
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Re: Brock's Full Soldat Mod_1.0
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2007, 03:58:22 pm »
Well, I have always had problems making things stick up with only about 6 or so pixels to work with...  Are there any guides on making them look 3d-ish?
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Re: Brock's Full Soldat Mod_1.0
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2007, 06:20:59 pm »
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Re: Brock's Full Soldat Mod_1.0
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2007, 09:53:16 pm »
A bright line of pixels followed underneath by a darker line would give your guns the detail they need in appropriate places. I also advise, not to use the lighting effects in the images you find in the net as they are more often than not, deliberate. This is plainly what you have done in the Ak, hence why it doesn't look that good. Colouring would look much better if they weren't all just one same colour in some areas (I can see that in the barret). Just take a look at the guns in Dairy's Sig, a bit large but they are the sexiest gun i've ever seen in the soldat community.
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Re: Brock's Full Soldat Mod_1.0
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2007, 12:00:57 am »
Ok thank you for the reasonable criticism and support guys.   :)



I believe that this is a definite step forward.  I'm not darkening the AK any more than that, so don't ask.  And while I don't think the AK is perfect yet, I think it is better.

Look at all the changes made in the Change Log in Read Me!.txt

I probably won't be updating this for a bit.  I need to apprentice under Dairy as many of seem to say.  So enjoy this for now! ;)

I think I personally maybe took a step back on the Barret, but I can Iron out the wrinkles later.

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Re: Brock's Full Soldat Mod_1.0
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2007, 05:36:12 am »
new ak looks smoking!
love it!

barrett is a bit white? or is it just me..
and i think that in real life a Minimi is a bit longer than a Ruger..so it's still pretty small..it's a big gun you know :)

beside that, everything is fine now in my opinion