The Chainsaw

[Dusty]

Saw does work in gahters as it was mentioned already, you just gotta know how to use it right. Of course it has its cons and it just might not be as useful as the knife or socom, but when used right it's kwl.

Those who are saying it won't work can eat some rocks and learn to use it.

[Hair|Trigger]

It can be as useful as the knife depending on your trajectory, for most people though its basically being in the right place at the right time.

You can control this this, by knowing how to get into the right place at the right time.  sometimes it's a few steps away.

[Gnoblar]

Chainsaws for me have always been a zombie weapon literally and figurativly; a no-brainer, run and die weapon, perfect for bots, but a little silly with humans, but I must say, it has very amusing effects when is hits.

[-Major-]

the chainsaw is extremely hard to use, harder than any other weapon. but the other secondaries will most likely always be above the chainsaw, as mentioned earlier, it's eaten all the time, and nade + fire, makes the saw useless, for now it's only possible to use at surprising moments, or single enemy spawn killing. increasing the hit reg would increase it's effectiveness, but still having it underpowered.

[STM1993]

It's a no-brainer or easy against bots (if your ping is good enough, that is, lag makes it difficult). It's also pretty easy against slow players or the not so good players. But playing competitively against the better players, you'd have to catch people by surprise or spawnkill, which can be pretty difficult. And as mentioned, lag is a problem.

[L[0ne]R]

Saw is very hard to use (and it's not just hold-the-button-and-run-like-crazy as someone said - players like that dont live long), and yes, it's best on public servers because even if you're really skilled with saw, your chances of defeating a very experienced player are miserable.
BUT!
It doesn't matter much, because if you know how to use saw properly - you'll have hell lot of FUN with it.

Besides, it still works fine against average-skilled players. And I don't mean camping or spawnkilling or against slow players. I mean a completely fair fight.
Although lag is still a problem.

[Lumen-Shroom]

btw i think the chainsaw is one of the greatest primary weapons and have awful potential power

Wrong. It's a secondary, and in fact its one of the weakest weapons in Soldat.




Read my weapons guide, link in my signature, for a simpler description.



The chainsaw is basically THE melee weapon.

Unlike fists or when slashing a knife(who slashes with a knife anyway? It's meant to be thrown), you are not restricted to attacking enemies only directly in front of you and following a slow attack animation. In fact, the chainsaw works more like a gun - you can point it at any direction and start sawing REALLY fast, though you need to "reload". It's one of the only few weapons that can really own an entire group of enemies without the use of a Berserker kit.

Contrary to the popular belief, the saw is both a 1-hitter and an automatic weapon (look at my weapon guide). The saw can't kill in one hit if it hits the leg, but because its slashes so fast (no one taps their saw, they'd hold it down all the way), it seems like it just kills in one hit, when in fact you're sawing the enemy multiple times at once.

Unfortunately, the saw, being a melee weapon, is difficult to use and a lot of skill is required. But also because of its short range, using a saw in competitive gameplay is as good as useles No matter how fast you are or how good you are at surprising foes, you'd either miss or have no time to draw your saw out.

Saw is only effective against other melee attackers or in less-skillful situations such as in public servers.

I've gone 20-10 in a gather with the saw once with no caps

[Lumen-Shroom]

It's underpowered in competitive gameplay because competitive players are very aware and can take a sawer out very easily, even before he can reach him. Okay, maybe that's a little exaggerated, but it's really difficult for you to saw a competitive player unless the competition is a Saw competition.

Adding a delay makes the Chainsaw more than underpowered already. Probably one of the worst ways to "balance" the chainsaw.

It's not that hard. Most gunners, even in gathers, don't dodge at all + think that because they have a gun and you have a saw they'll auto-win

[croat1gamer]

ooh, a brother in arms
well, realistic is even harder, because you are dead after 5 bullets

heres a nice video

they eat alot, mine ping is ~150, its [ec] trenchwars
have slow upload and cant make an attachment
http://www.badongo.com/file/13392700

(look at the score, 90% of the ime i am using the saw)

[Keldorn]

*note: when attacking, the jump'n'prone, it is often useful, cause not many ppl know how to fight a good sawer

Actually, jump + prone + jet.

[Platehead]

I'd say that's what he means, I mean, you don't see anyone just jumpin then lying on the ground revving their saw eh
But it is unfeasible for competitive use.  Maybe you can get a couple of good games in, but it will never be as consistent as the knife/law.

[demoniac93]

Saw is just for going crazy and having fun, or surprising the enemy when they dig themselves in too tight.

[smiluu]

Wouldn't it be cool to have a lawnmower instead of chainsaw?

[p0ppin]

Don't insult saw users by saying it takes no skill to kill with.  Sure, it requires less aim and allocation of ammo, but the process of actually reaching an opponent without dying requires a vast use of manuevering skill + timing -- far more than simply pressing F to chuck your knife at someone.  As I see, most everyone here agrees that the saw is underpowered, so how can you say someone is unskilled for getting kills with it?

Make the saw throwable, but not lethal like the knife.  That'd be fun

[demoniac93]

Don't insult saw users by saying it takes no skill to kill with.  Sure, it requires less aim and allocation of ammo, but the process of actually reaching an opponent without dying requires a vast use of manuevering skill + timing -- far more than simply pressing F to chuck your knife at someone.  As I see, most everyone here agrees that the saw is underpowered, so how can you say someone is unskilled for getting kills with it?

Make the saw throwable, but not lethal like the knife.  That'd be fun

Lol, just imagined: Deadly saw throw! *Killed by major*
*Log: Major (Saw) [You]*

[~Niko~]

Does this really belong to Weapon balance or is it more about modding?

Anyways the chainsaw is an insult to me. You have to be very dumb to don't dodge it. It's a weak weapon, tiny ranged and can only be used for fun.

[AntiHero]

Theres a thread made by Lumenshroom thats really help ful that teaches you how to use and tips about chainsaw

[Shard]

Wouldn't it be cool to have a lawnmower instead of chainsaw?

L M F A O YES IT WOULD! F12 for a gardening tools weapon mod!

The saw is not a normal gun. Its funny to mod funny to use and is generally not a skill weapon and more down to who has the lower ping.

[-Major-]

Wouldn't it be cool to have a lawnmower instead of chainsaw?

L M F A O YES IT WOULD! F12 for a gardening tools weapon mod!

The saw is not a normal gun. Its funny to mod funny to use and is generally not a skill weapon and more down to who has the lower ping.

Kinda necro post...

For less skilled players saw is rather hard to use. it gets easier the better you get skill wise, since you can find these right spots easier.

Making saw a skilled weapon, but useless.

[MetsuriTossavainen]

I like to use chainsaw. I think it's very effective if you can use it right.