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Spawn after selecting weapon?

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Offline The Epic Guy

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Spawn on weapon select
« on: March 23, 2009, 06:30:18 am »
Instead of spawning after a set amount of time, make it so the player has to choose his weapon before appearing onscreen, but only after the spawn time has passed. The camera would still move to the spawn point. If you choose your weapon before the spawn time is up, you will spawn as usual. But if you dont, then you will spawn as soon as you choose your weapon or click outside the box.

Advantages:
Player is more prepared at spawn, possible spawnkill evasion.
Reduces AFK kills, because of lengthier spawn times.

Disadvantages:
Player can camp at spawn, but spawnspark will draw your attention to him quickly, very minor.

As for a maximum spawn time, Im suggesting double the regular spawn time. So if the respawn time is 3 seconds, you can wait another 6 seconds before spawning automatically.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2009, 11:05:30 am by The Epic Guy »

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Re: Spawn on weapon select
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2009, 08:11:32 am »
Hmm. Nice idea. How about spawning when you press certain key (LMB)?
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Re: Spawn on weapon select
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2009, 09:52:09 am »
I say yes to this. I don't want people abusing it, so I say it should still have a time limit.

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Re: Spawn on weapon select
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2009, 11:31:05 am »
f12, this would reduce spawn-killing troubles A LOT. however i agree with xxypher and maybe would make it, say 2-3 minutes?
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Re: Spawn on weapon select
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2009, 11:47:41 am »
I say yes to this. I don't want people abusing it, so I say it should still have a time limit.

I think he is saying that it will have the time limit anyway, just that you only spawn after that once you've chosen a weapon.
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Re: Spawn on weapon select
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2009, 03:31:12 pm »
I dont think it should have a limit because I cant really see anyone abusing this. If you factor in the time when you cant use weapons after spawn, and the spawnspark/sound, using this to camp is a really shitty idea.

Also in CTF the longer you stay in this mode, the easier it is to steal your flag.

EDIT: Respawn time still applies.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2009, 03:40:43 pm by The Epic Guy »

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Re: Spawn on weapon select
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2009, 10:19:45 pm »
I don't like this, I like the way soldat forces you to think fast.  Plus, you could use it to your advantage, tactically spawning to avoid someone/spawn next to someone

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Re: Spawn on weapon select
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2009, 04:18:57 am »
I'm sooooo for this. Too many times do I respawn into enemy fire still choosing the right weapon. However, there still needs to be a time limit.
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Re: Spawn on weapon select
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2009, 05:18:42 am »
I can't see why this subject because you always can choose your weapon as soon as you're dead, that is to say before spawning O_o

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Re: Spawn on weapon select
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2009, 06:49:22 am »
This would be rather very interesting. Supposedly, it COULD decrease the momentum and asperation of the game's speed, however it would rather increase less spawn killing and afk players won't be appearing on the screen. 
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Re: Spawn on weapon select
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2009, 07:25:21 am »
But it would make it harder to spot afkers and kick them?
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Re: Spawn on weapon select
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2009, 07:27:52 am »
Yeah it's hard to spot someone who isn't spawning because he's afk. Rrrrrright

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Re: Spawn on weapon select
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2009, 07:32:58 am »
But it would make it harder to spot afkers and kick them?

So you blame people for having needs, and a life, outside of soldat?! what if your telephone rings and you've got a long conversation, would you like missing a spot on your fav server cause teams were uneven by 1 man??? that's ignorant, and kinda selfish.
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Re: Spawn on weapon select
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2009, 09:23:34 am »
I don't like this, I like the way soldat forces you to think fast.  Plus, you could use it to your advantage, tactically spawning to avoid someone/spawn next to someone
That is the problem with spawnkilling - spawned players can think fast, but process of respawning doesn't always let them act as fast. And besides, respawn points arent always positioned well enough to avoid this.

Anyway, this feature has been suggested in "Quick bit on spawnkilling" thread, but I'll aggree to this suggestion once again. What's the point of respawning without a weapon anyway?

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Re: Spawn on weapon select
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2009, 10:38:01 am »
Great idea. I saw players always getting killed because of weapon spawns.

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Re: Spawn on weapon select
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2009, 01:44:06 pm »
Taking all of this into account:
  • There should be minimum time limit. Before it elapses you're not able to respawn. (Same way as it is in current version of Soldat.)
  • Maximum spawntime - after it wears out you'll be automatically spawned.
  • Between those 2 timelimits it should ba allowed to respawn after pressing key.
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Re: Spawn on weapon select
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2009, 03:51:15 pm »
    • Between those 2 timelimits it should ba allowed to respawn after pressing key.

    I don't understand why you will need to press a key. simply clicking the weapon you want on the list will respawn you, so before you click just scan your surroundings for enemies. Or am I not understanding that part of it?

    anyay, f12. definitely happened to me before where I'm still selecting weapon and enemies come flying in.
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    Re: Spawn on weapon select
    « Reply #17 on: March 26, 2009, 03:57:05 pm »
    ^ The ability to know where you spawn before you spawn would prevent some spawnkillings.

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    Re: Spawn on weapon select
    « Reply #18 on: March 26, 2009, 03:57:20 pm »
    f12, for those fecking m79 base campers

    i often end up leaving the game soo pissed cuz 1 idiot base spawned with a 79 for 4 maps straight and noone was able to do anything about him due to his excellent dodging skills

    and since my team was stuck with that idiot, the other team simply capped capped capped like we werent even in the game, grr

    aaand to make things worse, the other team had more members and were more than happy to f11 at any vote kicks for him

    aaaaand there was no admin on

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    Re: Spawn on weapon select
    « Reply #19 on: March 26, 2009, 04:53:00 pm »
    But it would make it harder to spot afkers and kick them?

    So you blame people for having needs, and a life, outside of soldat?! what if your telephone rings and you've got a long conversation, would you like missing a spot on your fav server cause teams were uneven by 1 man??? that's ignorant, and kinda selfish.

    Wow, you accuse me of blaming people for having a life outside of soldat, but at the same time you say that a spot in your fav server is so important, that people who want to play a quick match are not entitled to it (in the server that happens to be THEIR fav also) because you (who are not selfish at all) are on a long phonecall and noone can take your place. I personally dont especially fancy games where you have 2 out of 5 players just standing for the whole round while the other team is in full activity. But for each his own.
    If you have a life outside of soldat then it shouldn´t be such a tragedy to get kicked, just join again.
    Effectively you are saying that you alone are more important than all the other players in that server who would like ta have a nice balanced game, and I am the one thats selfish?
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