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Quote from: miketh2005 on July 10, 2009, 07:31:20 pmDonate to enesceHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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F11, this is way too complicated since every player needs to have a different background.
An example in an actual map, please?
You don´t understand me at all. Read my post. Try to understand how a DarkCrusade thinks.
Well, then let me explain:If you have a non moving horizon every player needs an own horizon background that looks like one he got. He may have the option to choose wich one he wants to have but on all default maps a night themed background makes no sense near to the fact that every mapper has a different background (individual) that needs its own horizon theme. What I want to get at is, that you can´t have one horizon for each map. It is impossible. And for sure you really don´t need it! We had updates for Soldat and Polyworks giving us .PNG and .GIF support (pure looks), now it is time to affect the gameplay itself.
The background would be part of the map, not something a player chooses for himself. It's like choosing map background color in polyworks. You could choose an image for background exactly the same way. It's that simple..True, we already have gifs and pngs, which are awesome. And I aggree that now we need more bugfixing and new gameplay features. But I never said it's something to be added right now. I just think it's one of those small simple features that arent too hard to add, but would add more depth and atmosphere to a completely flat-looking game.Try to understand how others think for a change.
What do you want to say me with "Try to understand how others think for a change"? Sorry if I bring my own opinion into a discussion, in the future I will agree with you in any way. Okay, now I stop kidding Well, as there are a few mappers with some artskills there would be possibilities for this few mappers. That means that a minority gets a new feature that a majority is not able to use properly and that´s a F11 for me, we need updates that make mapping better for everyone, but I agree with you that the mapformat needs a change.
Do you think I don´t read your posts or don´t think about what I am writing?
Due to the fact that this backgrounds would need to be very big to fill the whole screen....due to the fact that downloading a new map with such a background takes ages to download it
Due to the fact that many maps don´t have black blanks that fill the space where no player is able to move and will look horrible with such a background,
due to the fact that only a minority is able to create their own, custom onesit is not needed at all or would change much.
If you create a good background on a map with normal scenery you can have a much better effect. Just look at Glowing Dawn v4 to understand what I am talking of.
You are greenly, Loner, really ... I understood your position, but try one moment to get away from your almighty adult position or whatever.
Yes, I have my doubts.
~ 640x480 to be exact. Average size is about 70kb, which isn't all that big. And with some skill you can make it even less. If you can't download even that - I doubt you'll even be able to play soldat with ping less than 500.
~ They dont have to be 640x480. A smaller image could be automatically stretched to fill the screen.
Can you post a screenshot of such map? Preferably the spot where it's supposed to look horrible.
Is it based on a statistic, or is it your own assumption? Are you really so sure that others are such completely helpless noobs who can't do anything than stick polygons here and there? From what I've seen - even new mappers arent that bad.
The point of this feature is not to let you add a pretty background to your map. Point is - to create parallax effect that i mentioned to add more depth to the map, not just beauty.
I'm glad you find my position adult and almighty. I was afraid I sound like a nerd. ;O
You never made a map.
That wouldn´t make a cool background, it would look overstretched and ugly.
I can name some: ctf_Ash, ctf_Run, ctf_B2b and many more. Ctf_Conquest would look nice with it.
Just look on the maps of most mappers and you get your answer. I am long time in mapping and I know what I talk of actually.
From what I've seen - even new mappers arent that bad.
In the end it is to get a pretty background. Or has a parallax effect an effect on gameplay.
/turn off irony
Well, quit nice background on B2B. I only want to say that I don´t like a background on a place outside the map. If I have a nice background I have a black fade and then just pure black to the outside. Most default maps don´t have this black space and that makes a background not as good as it could be.
Don´t misunderstand me. It would look nice. It would give a feeling of depht. But it is just about the looks again and we need more things that affect gameplay. And no, this is not Gameplay Improvements / Suggestions, you are right. It are just too many graphical suggestions lately.
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