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Do you think soldat needs a new useful scoreboard?

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Re: new scoreboard
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2009, 09:01:44 pm »
That seems useful, but it could be optional. Still, I voted f12 for its good idea.

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Re: new scoreboard
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2009, 11:09:25 pm »
Yes, good idea. And have the team that you're on at the top of the scoreboard, for quicker reference. :D
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Re: new scoreboard
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2009, 11:30:52 pm »
No, Alpha should be top, Bravo bottom. You will get confused all the time otherwise.
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Re: new scoreboard
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2009, 11:17:13 am »
It's time for a new scoreboard.

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Re: new scoreboard
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2009, 11:37:01 am »
No no no. Make it optional.

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Re: new scoreboard
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2009, 12:31:51 pm »
It's time for a new scoreboard.


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Re: new scoreboard
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2009, 03:00:44 pm »
First I was like :3 but then I woke up. All hope is not lost.

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Re: new scoreboard
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2009, 03:48:19 pm »
It looks nice but there is a problem.

Soldat can have up to 32 players.
With your idea we reduce the amount of players you can see by 2 or even 3.
However even Soldats current scoreboard can't show all 32 players.



The idea to add the servername to the scoreboard however could even be added to the current scoreboard.
There is enough space for that.
Your color and the bold text look nice imho.

The scoreboard already needs an update because of the problem that you don't see all players.
Adding the servername could be done too I isn't a huge visual change and I think most players will like it.

I agree with that splitting the list into alpha and beta should either be optional or not added.
I'm not sure where you want to see the K/D ration added there seems to be very few space for that.
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Re: new scoreboard
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2009, 04:04:16 pm »
!Kd and !Kdall script can fix that.
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Re: new scoreboard
« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2009, 04:19:12 pm »
Yeah, I think K:D isn't that important, and for those that really need it there are scripts and.. basic math skills.

However even Soldats current scoreboard can't show all 32 players.
Well, that is only on very low resolutions, so it's not very common. NVM, I completely forgot about the non-regged players. :S
How about making several pages of a scoreboard? Pressing f1 once would show page 1. Pressing it again will show page 2, and pressing it the third time will hide the scoreboard (that is only if whole thing doesn't fit) or maybe use a smaller font.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2009, 04:21:16 pm by L[0ne]R »

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Re: new scoreboard
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2009, 04:21:18 pm »
Not being registred and thus playing in the default resolution "isn't very common"?
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Re: new scoreboard
« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2009, 04:22:33 pm »
Yeah, I edited that already ;O

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Re: new scoreboard
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2009, 04:24:02 pm »
Beat me by 2 seconds... But still, going through several pages would just be annoying.
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Re: new scoreboard
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2009, 11:29:31 pm »
How about making the list scrollable, then? As in, when the menu is up, you can use the scrollwheel to scroll up and down the list?
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Re: new scoreboard
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2009, 09:38:26 am »
As in, when the menu is up, you can use the scrollwheel to scroll up and down the list?

And what if you already use the scrollwheel ingame for other commands? Usually you watch at the list while playing. This would lead into conflicts...
Pressing F1 several times is the best idea imo.

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Re: new scoreboard
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2009, 10:12:03 am »
Yeah, I actually like it when he posts. Shows signs of hope for Soldat and he's gonna make our game better! Please visit us more often :D
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Re: new scoreboard
« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2009, 11:29:08 am »
I may work on my own version of the scoreboard, but I will make it like the original.

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Re: new scoreboard
« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2009, 12:31:03 pm »
Soldat can have up to 32 players.
With your idea we reduce the amount of players you can see by 2 or even 3.
However even Soldats current scoreboard can't show all 32 players.

First of all, servers with over 16 or even 20 players are extremely weird. Also, taking into account not being registered only gives you the 640x480 resolution as an option obviously what we have is what we have to work with. There are a few alternatives to 'solve' this problem: either you reduce the font size/line-spacing or you go for multiple nicks in one line. Since the width is also heavily restricted this doesn't actually solve anything and ends up being a matter of personal taste. Check the following image for a more vivid explanation



I guess using 2 columns would solve the 32 player problem (albeit packing things a bit, including not showing player names with over 20 characters properly) but I wonder how this actually would look with 4 teams too.
This is what this topic is about, discussing what possibilities and ideas we have to improve the current scoreboard
« Last Edit: October 01, 2009, 12:35:32 pm by kzya »

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Re: new scoreboard
« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2009, 02:33:37 pm »
Yeah, I actually like it when he posts. Shows signs of hope for Soldat and he's gonna make our game better! Please visit us more often :D
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First of all, servers with over 16 or even 20 players are extremely weird. Also, taking into account not being registered only gives you the 640x480 resolution as an option obviously what we have is what we have to work with. There are a few alternatives to 'solve' this problem: either you reduce the font size/line-spacing or you go for multiple nicks in one line. Since the width is also heavily restricted this doesn't actually solve anything and ends up being a matter of personal taste. Check the following image for a more vivid explanation



I guess using 2 columns would solve the 32 player problem (albeit packing things a bit, including not showing player names with over 20 characters properly) but I wonder how this actually would look with 4 teams too.
This is what this topic is about, discussing what possibilities and ideas we have to improve the current scoreboard
This looks like a pretty nice solution. Current scoreboard has a ton of horisontal spacing, might as well put that blank space to a good use. Also, how about increasing the size of scoreboard itself, stretching it to fill the screen more?
But as you mentioned yourself, displaying 2+ teams would become a problem. Ideally scrollbars would be the best solution (that's what other games use too) but as Illuminatus said, this would lead to conflicts with controls.

So I would still say let's make several pages of scoreboard. I know pressing F1 is annoying, but having 20+ players on server at once isn't common (mostly on zombie servers, but zombies are usually the ones at the bottom, so who cares?). Besides, this would make the "custom resolution" feature even more desirable. ;D
« Last Edit: October 01, 2009, 02:35:14 pm by L[0ne]R »

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Re: new scoreboard
« Reply #39 on: October 02, 2009, 04:22:36 am »
Isn't really important, but yeah why not.