Author Topic: ctf_Ruins (Read 9195 times)

Suowarrior · « **on:** November 22, 2009, 03:02:24 am »

Known Issues:

The polys under the flag doesn't look colliding

Feel free to post new issues, and discuss the current ones.

From: November 22, 2009, 03:13:17 am

This one is one of my favourites. No more polybugsy s**t! It improves the play in every aspect. It also looks unique, and simple (which is better in gameplay perspective too). To my knowledge original isn't very popular, at least in SCTFL. Got no reasons for not to vote for it.

As de Espada · « **Reply #1 on:** November 22, 2009, 10:27:00 am »

the "moon" has too much contrast, maybe could be added a blur effect (quite eazy, 2 scenerys with oppacity almost in the same place)

Vv00t-SN · « **Reply #2 on:** November 22, 2009, 04:27:10 pm »

What is the point of giving each structure on the map an extra "frame" of some light color?
It seems like the idea of "make map look like its name" has been forced on this one particularly, and it doesnt make a very good impression far as Im concerned :x

jerich · « **Reply #3 on:** November 22, 2009, 05:24:14 pm »

http://stats.sctfl.net/index.php?map=ctf_Division
Ruins as a standard map has been played ONLY 12 times and doesn't even make ONE percent of the maps played in SCTFL (~4000+ rounds)

I kinda like the old Ruins, but this one to me is probably one of the worst remakes. I agree with Vvoot, no one really cares about making the map match its name, its just an identification. If that was the case every map is about going "Base 2 Base", so let's rename each map ctf_B2b1, ctf_B2b2... ctf_B2b30.

Well, the reason I don't like this, and most of the remakes is because everything is too linear. The roofs of the "ruins" and even low is one big line. Also, people mention what polys are OPC and what are normal polys. People are getting confused because each map is inconsistent.

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I agree that Ruins should be replaced. Maybe I been reiterating myself. Maybe, I might have a bias. Take it as you want but I wouldn't recommend it if I didn't believe it would work. ctf_Jungul and ctf_Ruins have many similarities to call this a "remake" without taking the name or what not. The low part works the same, the spawns are the same, even the middle part is all open just like Ruins. The differences is removing the middle island, the hanging top islands, and making the flag more "easily" accessible for all routes, as well as making an easy escape(with 4 different choices to escape). The theme is different from Ruins, but without overdoing the sceneries and keeping it fairly simple. I believe the flag placement and these changes can intensify gameplay and make it more used than Ruins. I guess this will be the last time mentioning this, since I've said this numerous times and you guys are probably frowning upon this idea. Whatever you do, hopefully you do it for the better in the next version.

Vv00t-SN · « **Reply #4 on:** November 23, 2009, 12:08:48 pm »

Quote from: jerich on November 22, 2009, 05:24:14 pm

If that was the case every map is about going "Base 2 Base", so let's rename each map ctf_B2b1, ctf_B2b2... ctf_B2b30.

I thought the full name was Bridge2Bridge ;o

As de Espada · « **Reply #5 on:** November 23, 2009, 12:18:14 pm »

I like ctf_Jungul very much, it's very flowy.
The maps's similarity is very high too.

Biggles · « **Reply #6 on:** November 24, 2009, 12:09:27 pm »

I'm gono be honest, ctf_Jungul looks 10x times worse then Ruins, fix the looks and it'll be cool
green green green.. nahh

jerich · « **Reply #7 on:** November 24, 2009, 07:12:55 pm »

I could easily fix the looks, fine. But SuoW is asking me to remove a route, because there is just too many. What this does is make the map more generic. I thought we wanted to add variety to the maps.

I am offering something that is not your traditional map, and although SuoW is very good at what he does doesn't mean I have to agree. Sure, it can work if you remove a route, but then why add it if it's just gonna play just like other maps.

The multiple routes doesn't work in big maps, but should work fine in this one. I made this map small enough, so each point is accessible, easy to cut off opponents, and thus making more action. More routes makes more gameplay options, more variety, and I would think more fun. This also works in all game modes including R/S which some people tend to forget about.

I get the point that this map won't be in consideration, but regardless, changing the gameplay of the map isn't what I'm going to do because of one voice, when I've seen positive responses about the gameplay from other people.

Monsteri · « **Reply #8 on:** March 17, 2011, 01:38:55 pm »

I request to replace with this

this:

thegrandmaster · « **Reply #9 on:** March 17, 2011, 01:42:16 pm »

I like ruins... but the remake has.. ruined it.

DarkCrusade · « **Reply #10 on:** March 17, 2011, 01:51:15 pm »

I don't know why anyone would want to replace ctf_Ruins. I plain love the visuals! If the polybugs are such an issue, I'll fix them my very self.

Blacksheepboy · « **Reply #11 on:** March 17, 2011, 01:58:21 pm »

it's funny. I truly prefer ctf_Jungul looks better.

Suowarrior · « **Reply #12 on:** March 17, 2011, 02:16:26 pm »

Ruins is replaced cos it's the worst of basic default maps. Meaning with that it's the least original and popular map. And there's reason to change it and in my opinion new Ruins is better all the way, looks better, better play, less polybugs.

Though Ruins layout could be deleted completely.

Monsteri · « **Reply #13 on:** March 17, 2011, 02:57:51 pm »

Ruin is kinda fine for me.. Whatabout my replacement?

Bistoufly · « **Reply #14 on:** March 17, 2011, 03:54:33 pm »

I really don't like this map.

The old ruins was fun to run to. There was plenty of tricks possible. And a lot of complex kick-jumps too.

This one has a boring low and mid route. And the high route (roofs) is useless.

DarkCrusade · « **Reply #15 on:** March 17, 2011, 04:40:49 pm »

The new ctf_Ruins is too much ctf_Voland and too less ctf_Ruins. Apart from lack of ruins.

L[0ne]R · « **Reply #16 on:** March 17, 2011, 06:40:36 pm »

For one: we already have wayyy too many jungle-themed maps. Two - remake seems nothing like the original ruins, it's a completely different map, except even more generic.

I liked the original ruins both in gameplay and in visuals.

As de Espada · « **Reply #17 on:** April 25, 2012, 09:41:27 am »

ruins was shortened

tested yesterday. This version was very praised, much better

Bistoufly · « **Reply #18 on:** May 30, 2012, 09:49:30 am »

At first I didn't like the remake but then it really grew on me.

And the new version (1.6.3) really improved on the last one.

I like how the layout gives much space for running.
Many escape possibilities by switching routes. Clever positioning of the colliders.

GJ As de Espada

Fede- · « **Reply #19 on:** May 30, 2012, 09:54:48 am »

Quote from: As de Espada on April 25, 2012, 09:41:27 am

ruins was shortened

tested yesterday. This version was very praised, much better

:/ all maps has been shortened, ruins, run, scorpion, etc

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