Author Topic: Soldat Starter rewrite (Read 14281 times)

Shoozza · « **on:** February 13, 2011, 09:06:58 pm »

Hello everyone!

You asked for more updates? I'm trying to give you some.

This isn't really new but I rewrote the Soldat Starter in Delphi.
The main reason for the rewrite was that we had no real sourcecode for it.

The old version had been written by grand_diablo in Profan (Programmieren Für Anfänger), a language I even didn't know before

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I managed to get the old sourcecode and run it in the interpreter but couldn't find a free compiler for that language.

Thats why I decided to rewrite it from scratch (fixed some bugs from the old starter that way).
Now we are able to clean up the C:\Soldat folder a bit in the next release as
the SKControl.dll and the startbg.bmp files are no longer needed (the image is included in the start.exe file).

I know it's nothing big but hey at least news.
I attached the old and new screenshots of the starter.

Enjoy.

filip2322 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 13, 2011, 09:20:22 pm »

How long does it take to do that (Starter rewrite)?

Any bug fixes so far?

Clawbug · « **Reply #2 on:** February 13, 2011, 09:49:13 pm »

Damn, I've never even known that there was something like that in existence. :O Seems.. useless to me. Though, as you said, it's a start.

Espadon · « **Reply #3 on:** February 13, 2011, 10:04:53 pm »

Sounds like we can't mod startbg anymore?

chutem · « **Reply #4 on:** February 13, 2011, 11:18:17 pm »

try resource hacker if you really want to

L[0ne]R · « **Reply #5 on:** February 13, 2011, 11:21:52 pm »

I think BG should stay as a separate file for modding sake. The original one is kinda bad anyway, so now that starter's being redone - might as well replace the BG with something better. Maybe even multiple backgrounds which are chosen randomly at each start of launcher.

But yeah, gj on remaking the launcher.

darDar · « **Reply #6 on:** February 13, 2011, 11:40:52 pm »

sounds good even if i never had any problems with the old one ( and im starting soldat always via soldat starter)

but well done

Shoozza · « **Reply #7 on:** February 13, 2011, 11:51:29 pm »

Quote from: filip2322 on February 13, 2011, 09:20:22 pm

How long does it take to do that (Starter rewrite)?

Any bug fixes so far?

Took me some time to get the old starter soucecode and also to find out that I can't compile it.
All in all it took me one day to do everything

Doing bugfixes as I notice them. So yeah just fixed a bug which was added in 1.5.1 :>.

Quote from: Espadon on February 13, 2011, 10:04:53 pm

Sounds like we can't mod startbg anymore?

Yeah but I can change that if you want me to.

My current idea would be:
Keep the image which is inside the exe file but when you see startbg.bmp in the same folder use that instead.

Sounds good?

croat1gamer · « **Reply #8 on:** February 14, 2011, 12:35:13 am »

Why not including the mod launcher by Serial K!ller?

Shoozza · « **Reply #9 on:** February 14, 2011, 01:30:17 am »

The download site is offline and so I can try it.

Also it is written in vb.net which means the soldat installer would have to install .net

Espadon · « **Reply #10 on:** February 14, 2011, 01:41:49 am »

Quote from: Shoozza on February 13, 2011, 11:51:29 pm

My current idea would be:
Keep the image which is inside the exe file but when you see startbg.bmp in the same folder use that instead.

Sounds good?

Yeah, that would be nice.

Shoozza · « **Reply #11 on:** February 14, 2011, 02:20:05 am »

Quote from: Espadon on February 14, 2011, 01:41:49 am

Quote from: Shoozza on February 13, 2011, 11:51:29 pm
My current idea would be:
Keep the image which is inside the exe file but when you see startbg.bmp in the same folder use that instead.

Sounds good?

Yeah, that would be nice.

Ok, done.

L[0ne]R · « **Reply #12 on:** February 14, 2011, 02:26:24 am »

Quote from: Shoozza on February 13, 2011, 11:51:29 pm

My current idea would be:
Keep the image which is inside the exe file but when you see startbg.bmp in the same folder use that instead.

Sounds good?

Or make starter look for starterbg*.bmp files so that it choozes a random bmp that starts with starterbg. If it's easy enough to add of course. In any case, even a single customizable file will be enough.
Oh nvm, you've updated it already. GJ again.

thegrandmaster · « **Reply #13 on:** February 14, 2011, 02:28:38 am »

Nice to see a lil progress

it sounds pretty good.

Polifen · « **Reply #14 on:** February 14, 2011, 02:39:39 am »

That's a bad idea to make such things, we have so many developers in our community, anyone could do it, but only you can modify client and server... Why don't you focus on fixing bugs, when someone else ( I believe someone like VirtualTT would do it, or even i could ) could make and 3rd party apps.

Mittsu · « **Reply #15 on:** February 14, 2011, 02:45:10 am »

please focus on releasing the new soldat version, a lot of people need it

The Bone Collector · « **Reply #16 on:** February 14, 2011, 04:55:16 am »

Quote

need it

Or, rather... would like it. You don't NEED anything but food and clothes. Having a new version of Soldat is a LUXURY. Remember that...

dnmr · « **Reply #17 on:** February 14, 2011, 05:19:04 am »

Quote from: Clawbug on February 13, 2011, 09:49:13 pm

Damn, I've never even known that there was something like that in existence. :O Seems.. useless to me. Though, as you said, it's a start.

ditto. Used it exactly zero times in the past six years.

demoniac93 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 14, 2011, 08:01:26 am »

At least there's progress being made, and the best way to do something right is one small step at a time, anyway.
But you could have changed the background picture while you were at it, it's getting pretty boring.

Mittsu · « **Reply #19 on:** February 14, 2011, 12:44:22 pm »

Quote from: The Bone Collector on February 14, 2011, 04:55:16 am

Quote
need it
clothes

You don't NEED clothes. Having clothes is a LUXURY. Remember that... cpt obvious

darDar · « **Reply #20 on:** February 14, 2011, 01:20:35 pm »

Quote from: Mittsu on February 14, 2011, 12:44:22 pm

Quote from: The Bone Collector on February 14, 2011, 04:55:16 am
Quote
need it
clothes

You don't NEED clothes. Having clothes is a LUXURY. Remember that... cpt obvious

you didn´t get the message...
by the way try to live without clothes GL HF

Mittsu · « **Reply #21 on:** February 14, 2011, 01:29:58 pm »

there was no message, it was obvious i dont need soldat. Figure of speech, smartasses

Shoozza · « **Reply #22 on:** February 14, 2011, 04:13:09 pm »

Please keep a good tone. No one wants to read flamewars.
I also read these posts and they don't help me at all.

Everyone has his own opinion but there is no need to attack each other.

Quote from: demoniac93 on February 14, 2011, 08:01:26 am

But you could have changed the background picture while you were at it, it's getting pretty boring.

But I only have this picture :S

Quote from: Polifen on February 14, 2011, 02:39:39 am

That's a bad idea to make such things, we have so many developers in our community, anyone could do it, but only you can modify client and server... Why don't you focus on fixing bugs, when someone else ( I believe someone like VirtualTT would do it, or even i could ) could make and 3rd party apps.

Quote from: Mittsu on February 14, 2011, 02:45:10 am

please focus on releasing the new soldat version, a lot of people need it

It's too late now I already did it.
And I felt like doing it.
But I'll try to focus more on bugfixing now.

Thanks for the feedback!

demoniac93 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 14, 2011, 05:10:29 pm »

Quote from: Shoozza on February 14, 2011, 04:13:09 pm

Quote from: demoniac93 on February 14, 2011, 08:01:26 am
But you could have changed the background picture while you were at it, it's getting pretty boring.
But I only have this picture :S

Can't it be changed? :/
If anything, you could just go play with bots for 5 minutes, and take a few screens.

thegrandmaster · « **Reply #24 on:** February 14, 2011, 05:23:58 pm »

Quote from: Shoozza on February 14, 2011, 02:20:05 am

Quote from: Espadon on February 14, 2011, 01:41:49 am
Quote from: Shoozza on February 13, 2011, 11:51:29 pm
My current idea would be:
Keep the image which is inside the exe file but when you see startbg.bmp in the same folder use that instead.

Sounds good?

Yeah, that would be nice.

Ok, done.

Wes · « **Reply #25 on:** February 14, 2011, 07:23:09 pm »

Thanks a lot Shoozza, for doing this and for the feedback. You are the man : )

-dustydisk

filip2322 · « **Reply #26 on:** February 14, 2011, 08:38:49 pm »

Anything done with the crouch bug so far?
I get it allot

DorkeyDear · « **Reply #27 on:** February 14, 2011, 08:59:51 pm »

I think maybe he was implying that you may post your own submissions for suggested new default background for it. But I could be completely wrong here.

Remember to try to enjoy doing your work. Thank you.

demoniac93 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 15, 2011, 03:11:04 pm »

Quote from: filip2322 on February 14, 2011, 08:38:49 pm

Anything done with the crouch bug so far?
I get it allot

Nah, it's a nice lol to be had every once in a while.
I know that it is by definition a "bug", and has to be removed, but I'm kind of for letting it stay.

Shoozza · « **Reply #29 on:** February 15, 2011, 05:42:51 pm »

Quote from: Wes on February 14, 2011, 07:23:09 pm

Thanks a lot Shoozza, for doing this and for the feedback. You are the man : )

-dustydisk

Who is Shoozza?

Quote from: filip2322 on February 14, 2011, 08:38:49 pm

Anything done with the crouch bug so far?
I get it allot

Try out the old beta 1.5.1.12 enesce released some time ago.
If its in there its not fixed in 1.5.1.

Quote from: DorkeyDear on February 14, 2011, 08:59:51 pm

I think maybe he was implying that you may post your own submissions for suggested new default background for it. But I could be completely wrong here.

You are actually right.

L[0ne]R · « **Reply #30 on:** February 15, 2011, 11:40:17 pm »

Quote from: DorkeyDear on February 14, 2011, 08:59:51 pm

I think maybe he was implying that you may post your own submissions for suggested new default background for it. But I could be completely wrong here.

Even if he didn't - it's still the best way to go about it. This way community gets a chance to do something for Soldat too, and Shoozza could work on something else instead of looking for a new BG image.

However before we do that I think we need to decide on one more thing: Launcher size. Is it a good idea having it this small? Maybe it's worth making it a little bigger for the sake of larger mod list (or maybe remake a mod list into a dropdown menu).

GhostRiderSwiss · « **Reply #31 on:** February 16, 2011, 12:02:41 am »

sry for backstabbing ... but i got soldat now ...ermmm damne many years... the starter i did use in my ... how many years since 1.0 ? ...well i used it exact 1 time for trying a mod i download (which didnt work btw^^)

after that i didnt use the starter anytime... so whats the point to waste ur time on that? nobody use it and if some one does... he uses it exact 5 sec^^ to open soldat

so its pointless / senceless to work on that - dont duck urself from the huge bucks

face them and fix em !

anyway... looks good the starter... but yea... i think yaknow what im sayn^^

atleast it would be also bether doing my mod idea ^^ Admin/VIP Gosteks^^ x)

w/e its my point of view just

keep it up atleast u do something!

L[0ne]R · « **Reply #32 on:** February 16, 2011, 01:54:58 am »

The fact that you don't use doesn't mean NOBODY uses it. I use it all the time. Yes, you only see it for a short time when you start Soldat, but if you start Soldat several times a day every day - all those "short times" add up to one "big time".

GhostRiderSwiss · « **Reply #33 on:** February 16, 2011, 02:04:57 am »

still does it look useless for me to work on that^^ and who says that SOME ONE uses it beside u xD? na i think some do but i guess like 80% of current soldat users (even more) dont use it and will also not use it in future^^

OZIQUAZEL POWER! rofl

darDar · « **Reply #34 on:** February 16, 2011, 05:50:32 am »

Quote from: GhostRiderSwiss on February 16, 2011, 02:04:57 am

still does it look useless for me to work on that^^ and who says that SOME ONE uses it beside u xD?

i say so.
I´m using it every time i want to play soldat and its used by many guys i know.

Monsteri · « **Reply #35 on:** February 16, 2011, 07:57:35 am »

Used 3/10 times I open Soldat.

Illuminatus · « **Reply #36 on:** February 16, 2011, 10:39:35 am »

Lol. First I read "Soldat rewrite" and I went WOOOOOOOOO and danced the funky chicken. Then I noticed the word in between.

Monsteri · « **Reply #37 on:** February 16, 2011, 10:42:21 am »

lol, I'll be apart, man.

demoniac93 · « **Reply #38 on:** February 16, 2011, 11:04:53 am »

Some people still use the starter, I do when I'm too lazy to copy and paste files.
Also, you have to take into mind the fact that newcomers will find the copy-paste way a tad too complicated for a game like Soldat.

Elwy · « **Reply #39 on:** February 16, 2011, 02:29:30 pm »

btw. what about putting profile selection to starter like that mod selection ?

Shoozza · « **Reply #40 on:** February 16, 2011, 06:02:50 pm »

Quote from: Illuminatus on February 16, 2011, 10:39:35 am

Lol. First I read "Soldat rewrite" and I went WOOOOOOOOO and danced the funky chicken. Then I noticed the word in between.

Sorry to disappoint you.

Quote from: GhostRiderSwiss on February 16, 2011, 02:04:57 am

still does it look useless for me to work on that^^ and who says that SOME ONE uses it beside u xD? na i think some do but i guess like 80% of current soldat users (even more) dont use it and will also not use it in future^^

OZIQUAZEL POWER! rofl

As you probably read above I did it because the old starter was written in a weird language and I couldn't change it.
Now that the starter is written in Delphi it's no problem to modify it.

It may have been not well invested time but It felt great to know that finishing something is so easy

GhostRiderSwiss · « **Reply #41 on:** February 16, 2011, 07:12:39 pm »

alright

but pls focus after that on the bugfixes

soldat ♥♥♥

SyavX · « **Reply #42 on:** February 16, 2011, 07:56:04 pm »

Quote from: Elwy on February 16, 2011, 02:29:30 pm

btw. what about putting profile selection to starter like that mod selection ?

Yes-yes-yes! Add new switch for Soldat.exe to run game with specific profile. Something like:
Soldat.exe -profile ID
Soldat.exe -profile NAME

Shoozza · « **Reply #43 on:** February 16, 2011, 10:11:49 pm »

Quote from: SyavX on February 16, 2011, 07:56:04 pm

Quote from: Elwy on February 16, 2011, 02:29:30 pm
btw. what about putting profile selection to starter like that mod selection ?
Yes-yes-yes! Add new switch for Soldat.exe to run game with specific profile. Something like:
Soldat.exe -profile ID
Soldat.exe -profile NAME

This is not the suggestion subforums

so better add there

Meteorisch · « **Reply #44 on:** February 17, 2011, 04:05:36 pm »

Any update on what you're working on right now? OR what you're going to work on?..

any sort of RANDOM DATES we can expect anything would be great.

Rai-Dei · « **Reply #45 on:** February 17, 2011, 05:04:02 pm »

I don't see why he wouldn't re-write the starter, if you're revamping a game that's been f**ked for awhile now; it's a damn good thing to clean up all parts of it. Polishing every part of it, is essential for this game to come back. New users may use the starter often, starting off with a s**tty feature is quite the bad means to gain interest in players.

If a feature is staying in the game, fix it. Take off said feature if it is not being improved, assuming only older players matter is ridiculous. Patience.

I'm just happy to see interest in fixing this game, as it has been so long.

scarface09 · « **Reply #46 on:** February 18, 2011, 09:27:34 pm »

when the fuck does shit game come out. It seems it's bein even more delayed with even more developers.

Shoozza · « **Reply #47 on:** February 18, 2011, 11:40:38 pm »

Quote from: scarface09 on February 18, 2011, 09:27:34 pm

when the f**k does s**t game come out. It seems it's bein even more delayed with even more developers.

No need to make the word filter fix your language.

I'll post some news about that today or tomorrow.
But now back to coding...

darDar · « **Reply #48 on:** February 19, 2011, 12:02:30 am »

Quote from: scarface09 on February 18, 2011, 09:27:34 pm

when the f**k does s**t game come out. It seems it's bein even more delayed with even more developers.

do you need a handkerchief ?

demoniac93 · « **Reply #49 on:** February 19, 2011, 07:48:06 am »

Quote from: Shoozza on February 18, 2011, 11:40:38 pm

Quote from: scarface09 on February 18, 2011, 09:27:34 pm
when the f**k does s**t game come out. It seems it's bein even more delayed with even more developers.
No need to make the word filter fix your language.

I'll post some news about that today or tomorrow.
But now back to coding...

If possible, please do give as an estimated deadline at the very least.
The work you're doing isn't unappreciated, but some people are less patient than others.
To be honest, I couldn't give less of a damn when it comes out, as long as it does.

Mittsu · « **Reply #50 on:** February 19, 2011, 09:42:30 am »

im holding my league until the new version comes out, so it does matter for some people

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Author Topic: Soldat Starter rewrite (Read 14281 times)