Faster knife switch.

[Monsteri]

When I'm trying to switch to knife, I can hear the changing sound. I think that the knife already is in my hands, but for my surprise I throw my gun away.
It's annoying, and leads to many deaths. It can be fixed by two ways for me:
1. Make knife changing faster, so it's easier to use knife* and then the sound comes in right time.
2. Make the sound to come just when the knife is already (or a millisec before) in your hands.

*Knife should be able to change faster, than it's nowadays. Usually you have no time to change it, when your clip is empty and enemy in front of you. HAHA, you died! It takes now something like 1.6 seconds, it should be dropped to 1 or less seconds.
Almost every time nowadays, you need to pick up the knife before you at all see anybody, then run if you are actually going to kill somebody with it.

Also maybe a bit shorter throwtime?

[GhostRiderSwiss]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh god how many fucking times i shot my wep instead of my knife isnt countable... this problem sucks rly - the wep swich is good the sound just has to be fixed.

Theres nothing to vote for actually its just buged and has to be fixed :>

[thegrandmaster]

This, personally, is very very annoying.
I "switch" and throw my primary.
Knifes are already fairly fast to get out, better with the right preparation and mindset.
F12 to the sound actually changing at the right time.

Another knife suggestion would be that if you start throwing the knife, but die, the knife should still be thrown/travel a little way. Atm if you die while powering up, the knife just drops..

[Shard]

This, personally, is very very annoying.
I "switch" and throw my primary.
Knifes are already fairly fast to get out, better with the right preparation and mindset.
F12 to the sound actually changing at the right time.

Another knife suggestion would be that if you start throwing the knife, but die, the knife should still be thrown/travel a little way. Atm if you die while powering up, the knife just drops..

Thats because, when you die, you loose control of your muscles. You can't half throw something just cus your arm is halfway back when you die.

What about making it insta throw like MW2's throwing knife, with a hot key. After all, its no longer a guaranteed 1 hit kill. Might be a good balance, keep the charge up time if you want, this would prevent throwing your weapon. Dunno about picking it up again, maybe a script that ses, if you picked the knife and don't have one in your secondary slot, you pick one up wthout switching?

[Mighty]

1. Make knife changing faster, so it's easier to use knife* and then the sound comes in right time.
(...)
Also maybe a bit shorter throwtime?

Leave the knife and its timings as they are. Throwtime is already short enough, you don't have to throw a full-power to kill. About first one, it's still faster than reloading any clip. Knives are deadly enough in my opinion. As a knifer i can get to 1st/2nd/3rd place at pubs easily. Without ANY wep skills.

2. Make the sound to come just when the knife is already (or a millisec before) in your hands.

Yea, that's something that should be changed.

[Shard]

1. Make knife changing faster, so it's easier to use knife* and then the sound comes in right time.
(...)
Also maybe a bit shorter throwtime?

Leave the knife and its timings as they are. Throwtime is already short enough, you don't have to throw a full-power to kill. About first one, it's still faster than reloading any clip. Knives are deadly enough in my opinion. As a knifer i can get to 1st/2nd/3rd place at pubs easily. Without ANY wep skills.

2. Make the sound to come just when the knife is already (or a millisec before) in your hands.

Yea, that's something that should be changed.

Doing well in pubs with a kinfe is nothing to brag about...I would agree with leaving the timing, but not that it is still lethal. It was far better as a 1 hit kill no matter what weapon. A shortcut to the kinfe would prevent loosing your weapon accidenely.

[thegrandmaster]

Thats because, when you die, you loose control of your muscles. You can't half throw something just cus your arm is halfway back when you die.

Granted, if you are halfway back that is true but if you begin the throwing part then it should travel a percentage of the distance imo.

[darDar]

Thats because, when you die, you loose control of your muscles. You can't half throw something just cus your arm is halfway back when you die.

Granted, if you are halfway back that is true but if you begin the throwing part then it should travel a percentage of the distance imo.

soldat is not a realistic game though, ...
I would leave it as it is just fix the thing with the sound.

[L[0ne]R]

Changing switch speed isn't the solution. The solution is simply to disable the "throw weapon" button until weapons have fully switched. So that if you press "throw weapon" before you switch weapons - the game would wait til weapons have switched and only then execute throw.

[Monsteri]

But then -if you press F too early, wouldn't you need to try to throw the knife again?

[L[0ne]R]

The key should simply be "queued". If you press throw too early - the game should wait until weapons are switched and then automatically throw.

Also, I don't know any F keys. I have throw set to spacebar.

[Monsteri]

Yeah, good solution. Isn't it hard to throw with spacebar??

[L[0ne]R]

On the contrary, it's much easier. I can press spacebar with my thumb and keep other fingers on WASD.

[Monsteri]

Umm yes, I tried it, it's easier but leads sometimes to unwanted accidents.

[KYnetiK]

The key should simply be "queued". If you press throw too early - the game should wait until weapons are switched and then automatically throw.

This. Add this option to the poll if possible

[Monsteri]

Alright, done. Had to reset poll, go to vote again.

[demoniac93]

F12 for the waiting thing, can it be done though?
Also, a shorter throw time would make it unrealistic, just saying.

[Horve]

what if you change your mind about throwing: would it still throw the knife after the weapons will have been swapped because you pressed the throw button earlier?

It would be absolute s**t, if you were to throw your knife because you pressed the "drop weapon" key while the weapons were being swapped, but the throw turned out to be too late or unnecessary.

The fourth option in the poll describes the worst possible modification.

I would settle for (1.) not being able to throw while weapons are being switched and (2.) if the "drop weapon" key is held down, it would initiate the throw sequence immediately after the swapping has ended.

a) [current]
You are switching your weapon from a primary to the combat knife.
You press the "drop weapon" button while the weapons are being switched.
You drop your primary.

b) [anal]
You are switching your weapon from a primary to the combat knife.
You press the "drop weapon" button while the weapons are being switched.
After the weapons are switched, the knife is thrown at an undefined speed in the direction that you are facing, regardless of the need or desire for it. -> an unstoppable delayed throw

c) [the other thing]
You are switching your weapon from a primary to the combat knife.
You press the "drop weapon" button while the weapons are being switched.
Nothing happens.
If you keep holding down the "drop weapon" key until and after the weapons have been swapped:
the knife throw is powered up and ultimately, the knife is thrown.

[L[0ne]R]

Whether this fix is added or not - either way once you press the throw key - you can't cancel it. This fix simply decreases the chance that you'll throw away something you don't want to throw away.
But making the decision when and if to throw is the responsibility of the player. Made a bad decision and your throw failed?  Too bad, you suck.

[demoniac93]

Whether this fix is added or not - either way once you press the throw key - you can't cancel it. This fix simply decreases the chance that you'll throw away something you don't want to throw away.
But making the decision when and if to throw is the responsibility of the player. Made a bad decision and your throw failed?  Too bad, you suck.

Yeah, Soldat still has to retain some level of skill standard, we can't give every single newbie out there a diaper and candy.