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Re: Soldat 1.6.0 Release Candidate 2
« Reply #40 on: August 27, 2011, 06:00:46 am »
How about:
[F1] - players list with scores / [ALT + F1] - hide player names
[F2] - weapon stats / [ALT + F2] - show/hide sniper line
[F3] - minimap on/off / [ALT + F3] - statistics (FPS, ping, network bandwith)
and the rest like in the manual: http://static.soldat.pl/man/manual-en.html
I liked it.
Now it's more difficult to remember...

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Re: Soldat 1.6.0 Release Candidate 2
« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2011, 07:09:42 am »
How about:
[F1] - players list with scores / [ALT + F1] - hide player names
[F2] - weapon stats / [ALT + F2] - show/hide sniper line
[F3] - minimap on/off / [ALT + F3] - statistics (FPS, ping, network bandwith)
and the rest like in the manual: http://static.soldat.pl/man/manual-en.html
Using [ALT + F#] with numbers near 4 will increase the likelihood of somebody accidentally typing Alt+F4 (I, myself, miss keys on accident relatively often :P). Maybe it would be better to use CTRL or Shift.

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Re: Soldat 1.6.0 Release Candidate 2
« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2011, 08:06:37 am »
As far as I know, statgun bullets are style 14 and flames are 5.
That is, for scriptcreated bullets..

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Re: Soldat 1.6.0 Release Candidate 2
« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2011, 01:18:23 pm »
The latest script core still seems incompatible with scripts written for Soldat server 2.6.5.
Admin port seems to be semi-broken currently. Any character >= 128 in value is seen as the char 63 in value; at least as OnAdminMessage sees. This behavior is different than the previous version of the Soldat dedicated server.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2011, 08:52:41 am by DorkeyDear »

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Re: Soldat 1.6.0 Release Candidate 2
« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2011, 03:43:11 pm »
How about:
[F1] - players list with scores / [ALT + F1] - hide player names
[F2] - weapon stats / [ALT + F2] - show/hide sniper line
[F3] - minimap on/off / [ALT + F3] - statistics (FPS, ping, network bandwith)
and the rest like in the manual: http://static.soldat.pl/man/manual-en.html
I liked it.
Me too. This way it's much more intuitive and easy to access.

Using [ALT + F#] with numbers near 4 will increase the likelihood of somebody accidentally typing Alt+F4 (I, myself, miss keys on accident relatively often :P). Maybe it would be better to use CTRL or Shift.
Er, good point. In that case I vote for CTRL+F#
« Last Edit: August 27, 2011, 03:45:17 pm by L[0ne]R »

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Re: Soldat 1.6.0 Release Candidate 2
« Reply #45 on: August 27, 2011, 04:18:44 pm »
How about:
[F1] - players list with scores / [ALT + F1] - hide player names
[F2] - weapon stats / [ALT + F2] - show/hide sniper line
[F3] - minimap on/off / [ALT + F3] - statistics (FPS, ping, network bandwith)
and the rest like in the manual: http://static.soldat.pl/man/manual-en.html
I liked it.
Me too. This way it's much more intuitive and easy to access.

Using [ALT + F#] with numbers near 4 will increase the likelihood of somebody accidentally typing Alt+F4 (I, myself, miss keys on accident relatively often :P). Maybe it would be better to use CTRL or Shift.
Er, good point. In that case I vote for CTRL+F#
The old keys where:
[F1] - players list with scores
[F2] - minimap on/off / [ALT + F2] - show/hide sniper line
[F3] - statistics (FPS, ping, network bandwith) / [ALT + F3] - hide player names

Thats why I kept it like that. And no one ever complained about it before i changed it so it shouldn't be a problem :P

The latest script core still seems incompatible with scripts written for Soldat server 2.6.5.
Admin port seems to be semi-broken currently. Any character >= 128 in value is seen as the char 63 in value; at least as OnAdminMessage sees. This behavior is different than the previous version of the Soldat dedicated server.
The admin protocol is not unicode ready. I decided to fix it after 1.6.0.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2011, 05:30:07 pm by Shoozza »
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Re: Soldat 1.6.0 Release Candidate 2
« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2011, 04:22:36 pm »
Alt should stay because it have been used in Taunts... Isn't it possible to desible Alt+F4, probably not...

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Re: Soldat 1.6.0 Release Candidate 2
« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2011, 04:25:49 pm »
Alt should stay because it have been used in Taunts... Isn't it possible to desible Alt+F4, probably not...
It's possible, but I often use it to close Soldat quickly, so IMO it would just be even more annoying than keeping it.
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Re: Soldat 1.6.0 Release Candidate 2
« Reply #48 on: August 27, 2011, 04:32:49 pm »
Alt should stay because it have been used in Taunts... Isn't it possible to desible Alt+F4, probably not...
It's possible, but I often use it to close Soldat quickly, so IMO it would just be even more annoying than keeping it.
Yea, me too... But you can create another button combination that would close Soldat...

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Re: Soldat 1.6.0 Release Candidate 2
« Reply #49 on: August 27, 2011, 04:46:48 pm »
imo the statistics should stay in f3 as you check your fps every now and then but you bring the minimap up or hide it only once or twice during the round - if at all.

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Re: Soldat 1.6.0 Release Candidate 2
« Reply #50 on: August 27, 2011, 07:24:01 pm »
imo the statistics should stay in f3 as you check your fps every now and then but you bring the minimap up or hide it only once or twice during the round - if at all.
Why would you need to check your FPS? I understand doing it a few times for testing purposes, but once you're done testing - you don't need to see it anymore. Plus it's not a gameplay-related feature, so it's lower priority IMHO.

As for minimap - once or twice during round is still often. At least more often than FPS.

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Re: Soldat 1.6.0 Release Candidate 2
« Reply #51 on: August 27, 2011, 07:51:39 pm »
Heh never knew about the [Alt+F3] keyboard shortcut before.

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Re: Soldat 1.6.0 Release Candidate 2
« Reply #52 on: August 27, 2011, 09:01:51 pm »
I have to agree that making it alt+F# is just begging for people alt+F4ing... make it ctrl/shift+F#

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Re: Soldat 1.6.0 Release Candidate 2
« Reply #53 on: August 28, 2011, 02:09:39 am »
How about:
[F1] - players list with scores / [ALT + F1] - hide player names
[F2] - weapon stats / [ALT + F2] - show/hide sniper line
[F3] - minimap on/off / [ALT + F3] - statistics (FPS, ping, network bandwith)
and the rest like in the manual: http://static.soldat.pl/man/manual-en.html
I liked it.
Me too. This way it's much more intuitive and easy to access.

Using [ALT + F#] with numbers near 4 will increase the likelihood of somebody accidentally typing Alt+F4 (I, myself, miss keys on accident relatively often :P). Maybe it would be better to use CTRL or Shift.
Er, good point. In that case I vote for CTRL+F#
The old keys where:
[F1] - players list with scores
[F2] - minimap on/off / [ALT + F2] - show/hide sniper line
[F3] - statistics (FPS, ping, network bandwith) / [ALT + F3] - hide player names

Thats why I kept it like that. And no one ever complained about it before i changed it so it shouldn't be a problem :P

No one complained probably because nobody uses hide players name and show/hide sniper line. But with fps being alt+f3 i guess you will start to get some complains.
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Re: Soldat 1.6.0 Release Candidate 2
« Reply #54 on: August 28, 2011, 11:14:18 am »
you check your fps every now and then but you bring the minimap up or hide it only once or twice during the round - if at all.
Not for me. I use fps maybe only every 3-4 matches but minimap every time I am ffc and waiting in our base.

One new bug in "Config.exe": After what? :P

You added the missing names to the weapon stats but the sorting still isn't consistent. I suggest the following:
- primary weapons
- secondary weapons
- Grenade
- Clusters
- Fists (I'm not sure but isn't "Fists" the term used by most poeple? "Hands" sounds strange.)
- Flamer
- Bow
- Flame Bow
- Stationary Gun (use capital "G" like every other weapon name)
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Re: Soldat 1.6.0 Release Candidate 2
« Reply #55 on: August 28, 2011, 11:29:05 am »
You added the missing names to the weapon stats but the sorting still isn't consistent.
I believe this is because weapon id`s are unfortunately inconsistent (in this context). But I agree, the order should be modified to match what the average player would expect.

- Fists (I'm not sure but isn't "Fists" the term used by most poeple? "Hands" sounds strange.)
I've seen it both ways. I've been trying to use hands more often, as I think I see that more often; but both are understandable terms.

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Re: Soldat 1.6.0 Release Candidate 2
« Reply #56 on: August 28, 2011, 01:09:13 pm »
One new bug in "Config.exe": After what? :P
Hehe! I've seen it too, but I had ignored it... My pl version is correct... ;D

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Re: Soldat 1.6.0 Release Candidate 2
« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2011, 02:04:48 pm »
Alt should stay because it have been used in Taunts... Isn't it possible to desible Alt+F4, probably not...
It's possible, but I often use it to close Soldat quickly, so IMO it would just be even more annoying than keeping it.

I do that too, but there could be a pop up saying something like 'Are you sure you want to close soldat?' y/n to avoid unwanted quits ;)

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Re: Soldat 1.6.0 Release Candidate 2
« Reply #58 on: August 28, 2011, 02:09:05 pm »
Alt should stay because it have been used in Taunts... Isn't it possible to desible Alt+F4, probably not...
It's possible, but I often use it to close Soldat quickly, so IMO it would just be even more annoying than keeping it.

I do that too, but there could be a pop up saying something like 'Are you sure you want to close soldat?' y/n to avoid unwanted quits ;)
Alt+F4 > Enter... It sounds okay  ;)

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Re: Soldat 1.6.0 Release Candidate 2
« Reply #59 on: August 28, 2011, 02:35:06 pm »
Alt should stay because it have been used in Taunts... Isn't it possible to desible Alt+F4, probably not...
It's possible, but I often use it to close Soldat quickly, so IMO it would just be even more annoying than keeping it.
ALT+F4 will stay no need to invent crazy stuff.


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One new bug in "Config.exe": After what? :P

You added the missing names to the weapon stats but the sorting still isn't consistent. I suggest the following:
- primary weapons
- secondary weapons
- Grenade
- Clusters
- Fists (I'm not sure but isn't "Fists" the term used by most poeple? "Hands" sounds strange.)
- Flamer
- Bow
- Flame Bow
- Stationary Gun (use capital "G" like every other weapon name)
Config.exe label was fixed already

The reason why it's not sorted like that is like DorkeyDear said.
The weapon ids are inconsistent and I tries to move it down but then there was weird output as if something changed the values so i left it out.
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