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Can someone explain me...
« on: October 17, 2011, 05:25:38 pm »
...why wouldn't soldat have the option to use 2 secondaries instead of 1 sec and 1 prim as usual ? What harm could it do?
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Re: Can someone explain me...
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2011, 06:48:30 pm »
It'll need some significant changes to the weapon menu, which IMHO isn't worth the time and effort for a feature that is hardly useful.

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Re: Can someone explain me...
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2011, 10:27:52 pm »
I guess you want 2 knifes,although 2 socoms would pwn
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Re: Can someone explain me...
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2011, 08:10:04 am »
isn't worth the time and effort for a feature that is hardly useful.

You kidding with me? I don't know about you but I don't really think that a feature like that is so hard to add. Maybe just for a really really lazy programmer  ::)
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Re: Can someone explain me...
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2011, 08:31:14 am »
It shouldn't be so hard to do... But there are other more important things to do with Soldat... So 2SecWeaps project will have to wait... But some programmer would can do that pretty fast...

Mhm, playing with 2 Primary Weapons would be a bigger fan cause there are more combinations... :P
« Last Edit: October 18, 2011, 08:34:32 am by machina »

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Re: Can someone explain me...
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2011, 12:17:37 pm »
isn't worth the time and effort for a feature that is hardly useful.

You kidding with me? I don't know about you but I don't really think that a feature like that is so hard to add. Maybe just for a really really lazy programmer  ::)
Well, can you make a mockup of how the modified weapon menu would work?
Only way I can imagine it looking is have 4 secondaries in the primary list AND 4 of the same secondaries in the secondary list. That however would look odd, and I don't think there would be enough space to fit the menu on 640x480 resolution.
There would also need to be 4 more key shortcuts for the primaries, but primaries are already assigned to every number on the keyboard.

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Re: Can someone explain me...
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2011, 12:31:11 pm »
Eh, nobody uses that shortcuts anymore...

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Re: Can someone explain me...
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2011, 12:49:34 pm »
Eh, nobody uses that shortcuts anymore...
Is that a fact? Because I for one have always used keyboard shortcuts, and I know a lot of other players use key shortcuts too.

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Re: Can someone explain me...
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2011, 02:09:43 pm »
Eh, I really don't know... I choose PrimWeap and then I Tab the Menu with Weaps... That's all cause i don't choose weap each death...

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Re: Can someone explain me...
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2011, 05:11:44 am »
Well, can you make a mockup of how the modified weapon menu would work?
Only way I can imagine it looking is have 4 secondaries in the primary list AND 4 of the same secondaries in the secondary list. That however would look odd, and I don't think there would be enough space to fit the menu on 640x480 resolution.
There would also need to be 4 more key shortcuts for the primaries, but primaries are already assigned to every number on the keyboard.
How about the weapons menu remains normal and you have two choises which can also be the same twice. Maybe make a "2x" appear next to the weapon which you picked twice.

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Re: Can someone explain me...
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2011, 07:27:54 am »
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Re: Can someone explain me...
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2011, 01:36:37 pm »
I have to admit, that's a simple yet perfect solution. I'm ashamed I didn't think of that myself. :(
Well then, I have nothing against doing it this way.

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Re: Can someone explain me...
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2011, 02:20:43 pm »
Now we have yet to whack shoozza with our huge suggestion dick!
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Re: Can someone explain me...
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2011, 05:32:13 pm »
How would selection work? My suggested idea: Click on e.g. knife twice. On the first click, it will select it as your secondary (assuming it was not previously selected). And then if you click on the same secondary weapon that is already selected, and it will deselect any primary currently selected, and put the little mark next to the secondary denoting two of the selected weapon.

If implemented, I advise a server-side option.

I'm a bit ashamed to ask this, but is there a keyboard shortcut for selecting secondary weapons? If so, maybe if you press it twice, should it mark it as two of the selected weapon?
« Last Edit: October 20, 2011, 05:33:45 pm by DorkeyDear »

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Re: Can someone explain me...
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2011, 06:21:50 pm »
I'm a bit ashamed to ask this, but is there a keyboard shortcut for selecting secondary weapons? If so, maybe if you press it twice, should it mark it as two of the selected weapon?
I'm pretty sure there are shortcuts for secondaries (they were added in 1.6, i believe), I'm just not sure what they are exactly. I think it's Ctrl+1/2/3/4 or Shift+1/2/3/4

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Re: Can someone explain me...
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2011, 06:31:47 pm »
Eh, nobody uses that shortcuts anymore...
Lol everyone uses them, not only at the first spawn, because it significantly speeds things up, but also during the game because if you click between 2 weapons you won't change it and even here shortcuts give the possibility to use less time (you usually watch map while dead, so don't want to waste your time moving your mouse and clicking - which would result in a fail anyway, if done too fast, see above)


I'm a bit ashamed to ask this, but is there a keyboard shortcut for selecting secondary weapons? If so, maybe if you press it twice, should it mark it as two of the selected weapon?
I'm pretty sure there are shortcuts for secondaries (they were added in 1.6, i believe), I'm just not sure what they are exactly. I think it's Ctrl+1/2/3/4 or Shift+1/2/3/4
It's Ctrl + number, yep

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Re: Can someone explain me...
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2011, 08:16:32 am »
You guys just forget that soldat have also advance mode. :|
So if this goes trought advance mode makes no sense anymore.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2011, 11:04:14 am by Qeve »

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Re: Can someone explain me...
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2011, 08:28:11 am »
so if you select a law and a knife... what happens when you select a primary weapon? will you spawn with a law + primary or knife + primary? try to think trough your shit before coming up with retarded ideas.

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Re: Can someone explain me...
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2011, 12:43:33 pm »
Well, the idea is fine. Players could choose some fine combinations for 2 PrimWeaps :P But it should be an optional possibility that creator of server would have to allow: DoubleWeapons=1/0!

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Re: Can someone explain me...
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2011, 01:40:44 pm »
so if you select a law and a knife... what happens when you select a primary weapon? will you spawn with a law + primary or knife + primary? try to think trough your shit before coming up with retarded ideas.
Ewwwww.....
You spawn with law and a knife and quit the menu..
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