Music

[jrgp]

Yeah, winamp can play lots of fancy file formats. But if you're using Last.fm scrobbler or similar apps - they wont detect those kinds of tracks.

No, the last.fm scrobbler for Windows detects whatever Winamp is playing, so they'd get scrobbled too.

[Toumaz]

they need to have proper metadata tags to an extent which some formats do not support, which i think loner was referring to

[jrgp]

they need to have proper metadata tags to an extent which some formats do not support, which i think loner was referring to

I don't think that matters if they're in a playlist which tells winamp what the meta tags would contain.

[Clawbug]

.IT files do not support metadata tags, the only thing which could be scrobbled is the information from the file name.

The scrobbler API just wants the artist and track name and duration, quite much. With no tags, it's impossible to provide such information.

[jrgp]

Last.fm does not care about the file itself, just what the audio player says it's currently playing. And that doesn't need to come from the file either. Like if you take a bunch of mp3s, say on a write protected network share or cd, and they're all wrongly tagged. You go to change the names of the artists/songs and your media player first tries to save them to the file, which fails, and then falls back on remembering the song's info via a playlist or internal meta cache. And when it scribbles a song, it'll look there, not at the file's tags (or lack thereof). And that'd apply to this situation, since the files have no tags.

[L[0ne]R]

Last.fm does not care about the file itself, just what the audio player says it's currently playing. And that doesn't need to come from the file either. Like if you take a bunch of mp3s, say on a write protected network share or cd, and they're all wrongly tagged. You go to change the names of the artists/songs and your media player first tries to save them to the file, which fails, and then falls back on remembering the song's info via a playlist or internal meta cache. And when it scribbles a song, it'll look there, not at the file's tags (or lack thereof). And that'd apply to this situation, since the files have no tags.

I'm not quite sure what you meant, but I'll explain it my way:

For the track to be scrobbled - there HAS to be information about at least title and the artist.
What your player displays is based on the info saved within the music file (ID3V tag, or different tag formats for some files). If there isn't any info stored in the file - player won't know what's the title/artist/album/etc of the current song. Winamp, for example, displays the name of the file if no metadata can be found.
Same goes for Last.fm. If a player doesn't have the required info about the track - Last.fm won't be able to get it either.

[jrgp]

I'm saying that the player can get the name of the song and artist from elsewhere and just scrobble that.

[L[0ne]R]

I'm saying that the player can get the name of the song and artist from elsewhere and just scrobble that.

Depends on what you mean by "elsewhere". :S
Some players can get the info from online databases or something like that. But not all players can do that, and even if they do have such feature - they still need to have some clues about what this track is. On audio CDs there might be some other way of storing metadata for tracks, so as long as player gets it - the track should be scrobbled.
But if it's just a "track01.it" with no metadata at all - there's no way player can identify that track or try to find the info somewhere else.

[jrgp]

Okay, try this:

In winamp make a new blank playlist; save it somewhere as a m3u. Add one of the .it files to it. Open the m3u playlist in notepad or another text editor. Edit it to also have the artist/song info for the .it file.

Syntax of m3u files - http://hanna.pyxidis.org/tech/m3u.html

[L[0ne]R]

Okay, try this:

In winamp make a new blank playlist; save it somewhere as a m3u. Add one of the .it files to it. Open the m3u playlist in notepad or another text editor. Edit it to also have the artist/song info for the .it file.

Syntax of m3u files - http://hanna.pyxidis.org/tech/m3u.html

It's not track's metadata and there's no identification of what's the title and who's the artist. It's just an entry in your playlist, and again - that entry name was initially based on the metadata.

#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:96,Akira Yamaoka - The Day of Night
I:\~ Music\-[Soundtracks ~ Games]-\Silent Hill\Silent Hill 2 OST\SH2 - 13 - The Day of Night.mp3
^-- this had the artist and title info in ID3V tag, so winamp easily identified those.

#EXTINF:169,Gore
(Games)\Soldat v1.5\Sfx\Modules\gore.it
^-- gore.it only had the music title stored ("Gore"), so winamp identified this file as "Gore".

When I change it to "#EXTINF:169,Michal M - Gore", and then open the playlist - it would first show up as "Michal M - Gore" in the playlist. But when I play it - winamp doublechecks the metadata and renames it back to "Gore" because really there's no artist info within that file.

In other words, the real info is metadata within the file:
%title% = Da Song
%artist% = Da Me
%album% = Da Album

What's stored in playlist is:
length, what_to_show_in_playlist
path/to/file.mp3

[pengggg!]

hithere guys!

hey im an allround metal musician, sound technician, passionate soldat player, musically bored at the moment and i really like the tracks "bloody soil" and "gore" but i dont like the feelingless guitarpro-machine-sound. so, im asking sum questions to prevent eventualities:

- has this music ever been played, and if so, recorded by real people?
- who is this mysterious BSG that created those guitarpro files? nice greetz to him he did a really great job!
- is this of any others' intrest?

bcuz, if thats alright and does not collide with any obstacles, whatever these might be, id really like to reord these songs with real instruments! and of course it would be an honor to me if my real played versions would become part of the next version!

i already recorded a sound-preview but will not show it to the public until there is a clear wish for it and the permission of those who are allowed to give me this permission. (you see im not a native english speaker, but i guess you know what i mean

so now im really impatiently looking forward to read your answers!