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Offline Jermies

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Custom Gosteks.
« on: June 10, 2006, 05:26:33 am »
I think custom gosteks would be a great addition to the game. To avoid Invisibility abuse, you must have at least 9 pix/ body item...
What do you all think?

[This would allow me to make a domo gostek :P)

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Re: Custom Gosteks.
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2006, 08:33:25 am »
There was a thread on custom gosteks on forums.soldat.pl. It was locked. So, sorry, but no.
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Re: Custom Gosteks.
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2006, 08:42:28 am »
Make mod if you want Domo.Or ask for proffesional.Ok now to the suggestion i say it very short

No.

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Re: Custom Gosteks.
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2006, 05:06:26 pm »
This has been suggested Y*20X^2 times before. I think it's never going to happen.

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Re: Custom Gosteks.
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2006, 09:33:12 am »
Personally I don't think this would be nice at all...
It's not useful and even with that limit, people would find ways to abuse it.
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Re: Custom Gosteks.
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2006, 11:21:26 am »
I think Custom Gosteks would be nice.
And in my opinion I would want this in the game.

If it can be implemented, and it works out well, why not ?
It might take some time to figure out how to implement it.

But it's worth the time.  ;)



EDIT:

Seeing other players having unique look isn't the same as having your own Mod.
As well as you can show your own unique look to others.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2006, 11:24:45 am by Yuth »

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Re: Custom Gosteks.
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2006, 03:34:13 pm »
lol i'd like a domo kun gostek 2 !

but wouldnt everybody just make his gostek invisible?


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Re: Custom Gosteks.
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2006, 03:38:38 pm »
I use to think this was a good idea, then i relized. . what's the point? You can see yourself that way and that's all that matters. And, what if somone else has gosteks set a certain way, say spec ops and want everyone else to look that way and all the sudden a halo guy comes and kills him  ::)

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Re: Custom Gosteks.
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2006, 07:54:49 pm »
I use to think this was a good idea, then i relized. . what's the point? You can see yourself that way and that's all that matters. And, what if somone else has gosteks set a certain way, say spec ops and want everyone else to look that way and all the sudden a halo guy comes and kills him  ::)

Eh ?  :-\

Seeing yourself as you want to look isn't as good as showing it to others, as well as seeing other players having their own unique look. There should be a server option which allows you to upload your own look or disabling it so you'd have the default look as you join the server.

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Re: Custom Gosteks.
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2006, 10:54:24 pm »
The custom gosteks online thread from the old forums should be moved over... the first post had a summary, which resolved issues such as all those described in this thread, + more. 
Oh, and the reason why it was locked is because it was still getting posts in it like 10 months after it was created, not because it was "shot down". 

MM actually tried it, but couldn't find a suitable way of transfering the files between players at the time... so I think the idea still has some hope alive. 

I think a sophisticated model changing feature in the game could be really great. 
« Last Edit: June 11, 2006, 10:56:06 pm by Replica »

Offline jettlarue

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Re: Custom Gosteks.
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2006, 11:03:24 pm »
well i think it would be pretty sweet, but think about the people who make themselves look like grass or same as background color? i mean, it probably would only work without exploiters in privates. just my 2 cents.

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Re: Custom Gosteks.
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2006, 04:38:04 am »
I use to think this was a good idea, then i relized. . what's the point?

Individuality is important in gaming, makes you stand out from the rest. Players would be more recognisable on the map, so you'd be able to recognise the tougher players by their gostek and run the hell away from them. Also, custom gostek would be a good way to promote a mod you've released to the public.

Even so...this ain't happening.

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Re: Custom Gosteks.
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2006, 01:09:37 pm »
I use to think this was a good idea, then i relized. . what's the point?

Individuality is important in gaming, makes you stand out from the rest. Players would be more recognisable on the map, so you'd be able to recognise the tougher players by their gostek and run the hell away from them. Also, custom gostek would be a good way to promote a mod you've released to the public.

Even so...this ain't happening.

What the hell... Last thing I remember Michal saying about Custom Gosteks Online was that he had already tried to get this working, but it didn't work that well. So you're saying he has given up on this already?  :(

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Re: Custom Gosteks.
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2006, 03:55:05 pm »
if it would work uit cool, i am with it.


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Re: Custom Gosteks.
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2006, 12:47:42 am »
If it's possible, I don't see why not.

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Re: Custom Gosteks.
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2006, 01:08:13 am »
If you make a minimum pixel area that has to be large enough to be seen. (so no exploiting)

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Re: Custom Gosteks.
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2006, 04:27:08 am »
What the hell... Last thing I remember Michal saying about Custom Gosteks Online was that he had already tried to get this working, but it didn't work that well. So you're saying he has given up on this already?  :(

No, sorry, I didn't mean to confuse you. I was pretty sure that it would never be put in the game, but I didn't know Michal had already tried to do it. :o It may yet be implemented, keep your hopes up.

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Re: Custom Gosteks.
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2006, 04:33:05 am »
gah, so many people trying to point out the problems... they've already been pointed out and given a possible solution!  I'm going to copy and paste that summary now... 

here we go:
THE DEFINITIVE REPLY ABOUT THIS TOPIC
read this damn it.

Problem: OMG! people will make invisible gosteks!!1!
Solutions: There will be either an uneditable white skeleton beneath the gostek, or an invisible pixel counter (or both), so that cheating would be veryhard/impossible.

Problem: There will be WAAAAY too much lag produced by downloading gosteks from server!
Solutions: A)Download from the player himself, at a slow rate, and do not show the gostek until it is finished downloading. B)Use a torrent system to download the gosteks from every other player who has that particular gostek. C)Make a lobby before each game, or a warmup time like in Wolf ET, so that everyone can download the files. In the warmup time, there would be no ping bans. D)Optional gostek downloading.
Note that players joining a match half way thru will appear in classic gosteks until the next map change.

Problem: Someone makes their gostek black/not white! How can i tell what team they are on!?
Solutions: A) Put team arrows above their heads B) You could have forced torso colors, but this would not solve the problems well.

Problem: OMG EROTIC GOSTEK!!11!1!eleven
Solutions: A) Ban that person from using custom gosteks, by either server option, or voting. B) Option to turn off online gosteks should be made available. (suck it up, and enjoy the moment)

Problem: ZOMG! my gostek is 1337 but i want no one to downlaod it!11!1!@@!21onehundredandeleven!
Solutions: A)make gosteks password protected. B)Option to turn off online gosteks C)Automatically delete temporarily downloaded gosteks (jeez, just deal with it if your gostek is stolen, the noobs wont find their way to the files anyway. :P )

Problem: Same named gosteks
Solutions: A)Make it a different name, like bobsstek918 or something. B)Gosteks would only be temporarily saved on your computer.

Problem: OMG. HARD DRIVE FULL.
Solutions:A)All gosteks temp downloaded. B)A delete function in soldat to clear the downloaded gosteks folder.

Problem:There's a guy whose head is as big as the level!
Solutions: Limit gostek size to a certain amount, maybe 2-3 pxls more than the standard gostek right now.

The following was made by a-4-year-old

"Problem: There will be WAAAAY too much lag produced by downloading gosteks from server!"
MY solution: GET BETTER INTERNETS CHEAPASS!

"Problem: OMG EROTIC GOSTEK!!11!1!eleven"
solution: ban before they use the secret command!

"Problem: ZOMG! my gostek is 1337 but i want no one to downlaod it!11!1!@@!21onehundredandeleven!"
solution: nobody wants your stupid halo gostek

"Problem: OMG. HARD DRIVE FULL."
solution: DONT BUY COMPUTERS FROM THE SALVATION ARMY and delete some porn/

one solution that kills exessivly many birds with one stone
no gostecs over <insert size> kb less lag, no giant heads, no full hard drives no (detailed) profain gostecs.

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Re: Custom Gosteks.
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2006, 07:34:51 am »
Okay, you can email Michal now and tell him you are going to code all the failsafes and cheat / abuse methods for him, if it's so easy.

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Re: Custom Gosteks.
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2006, 07:59:04 am »
Just wondering if you're talking to me..?

'cause I don't remember saying it was easy - just pointing out that the potential problems have an answer; as so many people seem to say "but... so-and-so will be abused for cheating purposes".  Why include something in the game that could be easily abused anyway?  If he were to implement the feature you'd want to know its weak points and ways to counter them, I'd presume.

And that I figure is the purpose of a thread like this. 
I probably sound like an asshole somehow after all this, sorry.