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Offline L[0ne]R

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Nade detonation
« on: January 13, 2009, 01:58:15 pm »
You know how in Soldat grenades explode on impact when they hit a scenery or enemy's head? Of course that's cool and effective and makes grenades much easier to use but that's not how grenades really work (at least ordinary grenades). I think Soldat could use an option to change this setting. This would be a great addition to realistic servers or TrenchWars.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on this topic - Cons? Pros? Where, when and how would it be useful? Should this be implemented at some point? Is there anything you don't like about the grenades we have now?
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Re: Nade detonation
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2009, 02:08:54 pm »
I in my opinion like how the grenades are currently. 

Dont real grenades explode on impact too..at least some of them, I believe.
Even though it's an interesting idea L[0ne]R, I think people like how the nades are currently. ;)
Why don't you add a poll or something so people can vote. ;)
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Re: Nade detonation
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2009, 02:31:37 pm »
Soldat's not supposed to be realistic...
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Re: Nade detonation
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2009, 02:42:14 pm »
True, so it might just be a good idea for realistic servers/players..mhm. ;)
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Re: Nade detonation
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2009, 04:13:57 pm »
Option: Yes.
Forced: No.

Being turned on it would be a major nerf to grenades, but being an option is obviously a better choice. Maybe just a WM option
Explode on Contact, 1=yes, 0=no. Something like that.
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Re: Nade detonation
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2009, 04:18:12 pm »
Quote from: Sir Jeremy on January 13, 2009, 02:08:54 pm
I in my opinion like how the grenades are currently. 

as opposed to, "I, in somebody else's opinion, like how the grenades are currently"??// weirdo

anyway I can see its purpose in trenchwars and what have you, but I don't like the idea at all for normal
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Re: Nade detonation
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2009, 05:09:27 pm »
I would like this idea if you would be able to 'time' the explosion by holding the throw button like in some FPS games(the longer you hold it the closer it will explode when you throw it), would make grenades more tactical.
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Re: Nade detonation
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2009, 05:30:44 pm »
^You know, that could actually work. How would you throw it different distances, though? Maybe flicking the mouse in the direction you want to throw it, and the speed at which you do so determines the speed the grenade flies...

Would be nice to try out just to see if it's feasible; if it was done right it could give a more interactive feel to nade throwing, but if is was under sensitive or too much so it could ruin nades.
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Re: Nade detonation
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2009, 05:53:18 pm »
Oh, I never said that the original nades suck and should be replaced with ones I mentioned. I'm totally happy with the ones we have now, but I think there should be more customisation of how they work. Lots of Soldat's features can be set to be more realistic (fall damage, weapon recoil), but there are no options for grenades.

Quote from: Banksey on January 13, 2009, 02:31:37 pm
Soldat's not supposed to be realistic...

It's sad that coments like this one are in every thread that mentions "realistic" features.
Yes, Soldat is not supposed to be realistic, BUT it has real guns, somewhat real physics, bullet drop-off, ricochet, realistic mode, those kinds of things that a completly "unrealistic" shooter wouldn't have. A LOT of things in Soldat are realistic, so why not to have few more?


P.S. added poll (thx Sir Jeremy for suggestion ;) )
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Re: Nade detonation
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2009, 07:01:41 pm »
Quote from: Sir Jeremy on January 13, 2009, 02:08:54 pm
Dont real grenades explode on impact too..at least some of them, I believe.

depends on how hard you throw them =P

but i like this idea
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Re: Nade detonation
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2009, 07:27:51 pm »
I think it would be good, F12. As an option, not default though.

It would make colliders so much more useful and tactical
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Re: Nade detonation
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2009, 10:13:10 pm »
I like your idea, definitely. First time when I played soldat, I've always hated when I was hiding in bunker, then they nade me and kill me; usually, I said "hacker!!". Hmm.... But the body part suggestion is similar to my suggestion...
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Re: Nade detonation
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2009, 11:15:26 am »
well, i would f11 cause it would ruin my beautiful kamikaze tactics
but it would help on some other occasions, like hiding behind coliders, so its 50% good 50% bad
but because it would be adjustabe for the nades to blow on impact, i f12 this one
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Re: Nade detonation
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2009, 11:27:58 am »
I'd F12 this as an option. No explanation needed.
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Re: Nade detonation
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2009, 12:05:49 pm »
That would be a really nice feature, yes for this one :D
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Re: Nade detonation
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2009, 02:19:17 pm »
Quote from: chutem on January 13, 2009, 07:27:51 pm
I think it would be good, F12. As an option, not default though.

Agreed.

Quote from: L[0ne]R on January 13, 2009, 05:53:18 pm
Quote from: Banksey on January 13, 2009, 02:31:37 pm
Soldat's not supposed to be realistic...

Soldat has real guns, somewhat real physics, bullet drop-off, ricochet, realistic mode, those kinds of things that a completly "unrealistic" shooter wouldn't have. A LOT of things in Soldat are realistic, so why not to have few more?

I agree! And there's Realistic mode in Soldat after all, I hope it's name is self-explanatory :)

Do you know there's another thread about the same topic?
http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=31617.0
(I've asked SatH to merge them)
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Re: Nade detonation
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2009, 05:25:18 pm »
Quote from: Gotfryd on January 14, 2009, 02:19:17 pm
Do you know there's another thread about the same topic?
http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=31617.0
(I've asked SatH to merge them)

No, sorry, I didn't know. :/ Since there's no common name for this kind of topic, I couldn't really check if there is one already..
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Re: Nade detonation
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2009, 09:34:47 am »
Quote from: L[0ne]R on January 14, 2009, 05:25:18 pm
No, sorry, I didn't know. :/ Since there's no common name for this kind of topic, I couldn't really check if there is one already..

Don't worry, some admin will fix it and there will be no problem.
The funny thing is that in your thread poll shows 70% support, whereas in the one I mentioned poll shows only 35% support :P
Maybe it's because you suggest it to be optional.
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Re: Nade detonation
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2009, 11:40:58 am »
this is soldat, not real life.
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Re: Nade detonation
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2009, 09:29:00 pm »
Quote from: homerofgods on January 15, 2009, 11:40:58 am
this is soldat, not real life.
NO WAI! You're lying!



Quote from: Gotfryd on January 15, 2009, 09:34:47 am
Don't worry, some admin will fix it and there will be no problem.
The funny thing is that in your thread poll shows 70% support, whereas in the one I mentioned poll shows only 35% support :P
Maybe it's because you suggest it to be optional.

Could be. I've read the other post and IMO it's not as clear about how this feature should be added. I guess people understood it differently from what author had in mind.


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