Author Topic: ~:|The Soldat Mod Makers Guild|:~ (Read 4507 times)

MattH · « **on:** May 19, 2009, 11:56:12 am »

Okay This is an Idea that I had.

I was thinking that all of the good soldat mod makers should come together and form a kind of mod makers "guild" the point of the guild being that we could all work on a single mod and each modder could work on the parts that he/she (if any girls really play/mod soldat

) is best at and together we could make the best mods possible by exploiting the best talents and styles in each person....

Benefits Of being in the guild:
1) I'll make a really cool guild logo that you can add to you tag

2)Each modder that works on the mod has the rights to use any part of the mod in there own personal mod

3)Hell the mods we could make would be awesome

P.S. This idea is still a rough draft

ChaoticEnvoy · « **Reply #1 on:** May 19, 2009, 12:00:07 pm »

Sounds like a cool idea, I am in.

-Skykanden- · « **Reply #2 on:** May 19, 2009, 12:58:13 pm »

Good idea but a modding team shouldn't be so big, not more than 4 because that would become a chaos

MattH · « **Reply #3 on:** May 19, 2009, 01:04:07 pm »

Does that mean you in sky??

and as for you comment I was thinking that we can split it up into groups

1) Interface weapons

2) Interface gfx

3) Weapons Gfx

4) sparks Gfx

5) Mapping (what do you think of this?)

6) Sound fx

Etc.....

-Skykanden- · « **Reply #4 on:** May 19, 2009, 01:13:37 pm »

No...
If you have it in your mind don't count with me, I was thinking about 4 people making a modding group JUST 4 even 2 are better, and you should try to join someone who has your style or something similar so you can make the weapons together

blackdevil0742 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 19, 2009, 02:38:19 pm »

We've tried this two times before and each time it ended up the same. The graphical style of each modder differed too much and made the entire mod look bad. Though the entire thing was fun to do.

MattH · « **Reply #6 on:** May 19, 2009, 03:37:36 pm »

Would you be willing to join?

as far as the differing styles go I think I have that worked out...
You get one modder that can polish things up and blend the styles.

croat1gamer · « **Reply #7 on:** May 19, 2009, 03:47:17 pm »

Well, each can specialize in just one part. like guy 1 makes the weapon interfaces, guy 2 makes weapon gfx-es, guy 3 can make sfx-es, guy 4 makes the gosteks, and guy 5 makes the animations (i am offering myself for this position).

MattH · « **Reply #8 on:** May 19, 2009, 03:58:50 pm »

Thanks Croat I'll take you up on your offer.

and as for what you said about each person doing a
diffrent part of the mod as you can see with what I said before I've got that covered.

Dairy · « **Reply #9 on:** May 19, 2009, 04:00:13 pm »

Use your free time more wisely next time, projects like this are fail. This is a tip not flamin'.

You just don't know what to do or what kind of mod to make. Take your time and think about it.

Collabs in Soldat mods ain't good idea because people here can barely cooperate and makin' one mod isn't such a big deal for one person.

End of discussion.

MattH · « **Reply #10 on:** May 19, 2009, 04:07:41 pm »

Its simple as I said before the idea is still a rough draft and nothings final
although I DON'T appreciate you saying "End of discussion" like you have
authority over this thread (honestly it sounds really snotty

).

But I do understand were you're coming from because you are right
these ideas dont work most of the time(but just because something
doesn't always work does that mean we never try?).

P.S. Do you ever say anything positive on my topics?

Dairy · « **Reply #11 on:** May 19, 2009, 04:20:43 pm »

Man, I'm givin' you critism. No offence.

It's not flamin' but I'm tryin' to write the truth. I joined once or maybe more few collabs with many modders. It came out as a bad idea because the style was really too differend among weapons and other stuff. Total chaos.

The thing I want to say is that you can manage things easier as a one person who will choose everything freely. Weapon types, sounds and ...well everything.

More people - more opinions - more struggle

But if you proove me wrong I will shut up.

So good luck.

MattH · « **Reply #12 on:** May 19, 2009, 04:31:43 pm »

As I said before this might not work (I know I know most likely wont work)
But I still think in the end it will be worth it....Then again I might be wrong
the way I'm planning it I will be the head "orchestrator" and keep things
in check (as well as blend the styles) and we will have other people working
on the other random parts that there good at.

Over all this is still in a blue print stage and in all reality we may never even
try to get this idea off the ground...

croat1gamer · « **Reply #13 on:** May 19, 2009, 04:34:11 pm »

Well, a collab might even succeed when you get a few ppl to work on some stuff that isnt too much connected to each other, and them to place it more like an compilation of some stuff that is together making a proper mod.

Like, one makes gosteks, second makes weapons (interface, gfx and sfx) and third might make a map.

For an example: your cod4 mod, you are making the weapon interface, gfx and sfx, scout could make hi quality gosteks, and vtt could make a few maps for cod4.
And i could also make a slash animation for the knife, not the default stab.

MattH · « **Reply #14 on:** May 19, 2009, 04:37:14 pm »

I'm thinking (mainly because of my other thread "what mod do you want")
that we should try a World War I mod....Just a thought its not written in
stone.

Gnoblar · « **Reply #15 on:** May 20, 2009, 04:47:24 am »

Who decides if we're good or not?

Not sure I'd do it.

There's no need for the "don't care" option.

-Skykanden- · « **Reply #16 on:** May 20, 2009, 05:44:56 am »

If I were you I would concetrate on making better mods on your own, then have fun doing whatever you want

Gnoblar · « **Reply #17 on:** May 20, 2009, 06:19:35 am »

Quote from: -Skykanden- on May 20, 2009, 05:44:56 am

If I were you I would concetrate on making better mods on your own, then have fun doing whatever you want

Was that directed at MattH?

And I agree, but ask fellow forumers for help.

Espadon · « **Reply #18 on:** May 21, 2009, 01:18:07 am »

It's easy to say "let's approach this with a have-fun" attitude, but in the end there are always going to be the people who will challenge the mod, pointing out this and that isn't good enough etc. And then you play the blame game. "Oh so and so just did a bad job on that weapon."

Group modding requires a high degree of cooperation. If you see each other in RL, group modding can work. Otherwise, it's not likely to surpass mods done by one single, skilled individual. And if that's not going to happen, is it really worth grouping up for? As I see it, the group-up motion is just another one of those 'pride' things that are really meaningless. You can give yourselves all sorts of elite modder tags and stuff but when you're the only one that recognizes yourselves as such, then it's rather inane, don't you think?

Gnoblar: your sig violates the rules.

MattH · « **Reply #19 on:** May 21, 2009, 07:55:09 am »

I take it that you mean I shouldn't try this,but as I have said before this is still just an Idea and that's all .....Now I understand that this has been tryed two times before the best things to tell me is what went wrong with them that way I can try to make rules to avoid those problems.

@ Espadon: Thanks for taking the time to explain those points( I understand your points very well) The main reason that I see making this guild is the principal of the production line in that it saves a LOT of time if you can get it to work...

~Niko~ · « **Reply #20 on:** May 21, 2009, 08:38:35 am »

You could make a list of the current modders, and each one could post here his MSN, Xfire, ICQ so if a modder has a big project can split the work in two. Or you could just make an IRC channel dedicated to modding and that stuff where you could find the modders and talk to them and so on. As Skykanden said, no more than 4 guys, because someone could go offline for some days, another has not much time, etc.

MattH · « **Reply #21 on:** May 21, 2009, 09:29:21 am »

Hmmm...well that could work....I'll give it a thought.

scout · « **Reply #22 on:** May 21, 2009, 02:30:46 pm »

sky and esp are right, modding teams won't go really far unless they know each others' strengths and weakness's DAMNED well. since there would be alot of conflicts between modding styles. Imagine a gun interface where half of the weapons are cartoony, while the other, realistic. same concept applies to sounds, weapon stats and even the extras. however, im all ears for this idea. it could revolutionize the entire modding community!- pun included.

Gnoblar · « **Reply #23 on:** May 22, 2009, 03:53:32 am »

Keep in mind people, this is only a 2D game. It's not hard to mod. You don't need super close tight-knit teams to make a good mod.

@Espadon: Fixed I hope.

Espadon · « **Reply #24 on:** May 22, 2009, 02:36:23 pm »

Quote from: Gnoblar on May 22, 2009, 03:53:32 am

Keep in mind people, this is only a 2D game. It's not hard to mod. You don't need super close tight-knit teams to make a good mod.

Conversely, modding is easy enough that you don't need a modding guild. If you can't handle it yourself, then you shouldn't be modding at all.

MattH · « **Reply #25 on:** May 22, 2009, 02:42:40 pm »

OI! Jump down my throat and kill me for suggesting...

I've made mods before and done a fairly good job with them so I don't know what your point was for saying.

Quote from: Espadon on May 22, 2009, 02:36:23 pm

Quote from: Gnoblar on May 22, 2009, 03:53:32 am
Keep in mind people, this is only a 2D game. It's not hard to mod. You don't need super close tight-knit teams to make a good mod.

Conversely, modding is easy enough that you don't need a modding guild. If you can't handle it yourself, then you shouldn't be modding at all.

Espadon · « **Reply #26 on:** May 22, 2009, 02:46:18 pm »

You mean well, but it's not needed. Go ahead with the people you have, but

Quote from: Espadon on May 22, 2009, 02:36:23 pm

Quote from: Gnoblar on May 22, 2009, 03:53:32 am
Keep in mind people, this is only a 2D game. It's not hard to mod. You don't need super close tight-knit teams to make a good mod.

Conversely, modding is easy enough that you don't need a modding guild. If you can't handle it yourself, then you shouldn't be modding at all.

Is the reason why I am not "in."

The mod will only be as good as the weakest modder in the team.

MattH · « **Reply #27 on:** May 22, 2009, 02:50:29 pm »

No one ever said or asked you to join (no offence intended) The point of the guild is Not because I cant handle making a mod by myself but to save time and to build a good working group of modders who understand how to work with each other.

And your last comment just isn't true as a team people work together and point out flaws to help improve the over all quality of the mod.

-Skykanden- · « **Reply #28 on:** May 22, 2009, 03:02:53 pm »

Quote from: MattH on May 22, 2009, 02:50:29 pm

No one ever said or asked you to join (no offence intended) The point of the guild is Not because I cant handle making a mod by myself but to save time and to build a good working group of modders who understand how to work with each other.

And your last comment just isn't true as a team people work together and point out flaws to help improve the over all quality of the mod.

Sure, you made so much modding teams right?

If you want to make a good team search a friend of yours and do it so you can work in you house it will be easier, but if your main objective is to learn, just make great mods and keep working.

Espadon's right.

Try it but you will check the truth

MattH · « **Reply #29 on:** May 22, 2009, 03:08:05 pm »

I see and understand what you both are saying but that's not the point...

As for friends none of my "real life friends" are good at pixel art.

I think this thread can be locked I give up and if I need help I'll just ask.

I tryed that's all I can say.

-Skykanden- · « **Reply #30 on:** May 22, 2009, 03:34:12 pm »

PM Who you want in your team and done.

MattH · « **Reply #31 on:** May 22, 2009, 03:35:29 pm »

Nah I'll just ask for help when I need it....

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